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quinnrj
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Topic: never use a base cleaner on your snow boardPosted: Jan/08/2013 at 5:28pm |
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Five years later, this is a great post! Thanks for the lesson!
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Lux
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Posted: Sep/29/2012 at 3:10pm |
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Lol... I can't believe people are treating their snowboard base like it was skin... It's inert. There are no pores like skin or wood. You can't moisturise it, and you can't chemically dessicate it. Do you want some Jergens Age Defying for your base too? haha!
The purpose of base cleaner is to unbond contaminants and wax from the base surface that mild soap and water cannot. Just use real base cleaner and a brush: plastic, fine brass, or silicone bristles, it won't matter. Citrus cleaner is a popular cheap alternative, albeit with a few unnecessary additives (dye, scenting agents, sometimes varnish/polish compounds). Isopropyl alcohol and chlorinated brake cleaner are two other very strong alternative cleaners, but they vaporise extremely fast because they are almost pure solvent with no oil/slicking additives. If you're not quick, they can just dehydrate the contaminants completely while evaporating, rather than washing them out.
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sdip12
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Posted: Sep/29/2012 at 1:20pm |
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Yeah i need to stop using base cleaner i have only used it twice i think. So if you just hot wax the board that will be fine correct? I also had a question about scraping it off, is there a point where you are scraping off to much? i mean i know you cant scrape to much but how do you know when it is a good time to stop scraping?
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snowboardinrox357
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Posted: Sep/22/2012 at 2:08pm |
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Same here. I haven't ever seen this thread before. So apparently you're not supposed to use base cleaner because it damaages your snowboard. |
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robnezz23
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Posted: Sep/22/2012 at 1:07pm |
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Dang how did this thread get buried and I never saw it till now. There are some old skool Sierra members at the beginning of this thread. |
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eddiexchoi
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Posted: May/07/2012 at 7:09pm |
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Good Stuff!!!!
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JAMM0N
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Posted: Feb/23/2012 at 11:19am |
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i dont use a base cleaner. by the end of the day all my wax is gone and i just apply more.
does anyone think that extruded bases need wax cleaner or does sintered need it also. i have a sintered and i dont think i ever need to clean my base before applying wax |
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gepet0
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Posted: Jan/31/2012 at 1:56am |
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I always use the toko wax remover to clea n the base of my snowboard before i have it waxed...
and i have never had any type of problem... |
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andyc5315
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Posted: Jan/11/2012 at 5:02am |
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I switched to just plain old water from rubbing alcohol. Works just fine. Any complaints?
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Worst I had was wonderful.
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Leo
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Posted: Jan/11/2012 at 5:00am |
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I still think that whole base cleaner thing is a wive's tale.
http://www.slidewright.com/weblog/ski-snowboard/waxing-ski-snowboard/base-cleaning-hot-scrape-or-cleaner/ I use citrus base cleaner all the time on my snowboards. Don't have a problem whatsoever with waxing afterwards. Here's a couple of my boards after using citrus cleaner and waxing. I even dripped the citrus cleaner directly on the base and immediately wiped.
They rode great and didn't dry out for a couple of sessions on man-made crud. |
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rurchan
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Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 11:59am |
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I heard a citrus base cleaner works pretty well
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letourneau41
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Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 11:33am |
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Great Link. I didn't realize waxing was so much of a science. I picked up a few good tips though to wax my board.
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Wzila
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Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 11:03am |
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man I love being informed and hate it at the same time. Now i'm OCD qbout hurting my board.... I clean my board with warm water and a rag every wax and use the swix cleaner ever 3rd wax, I wax ever other day on the snow. I use a home iron but never let it get hot enough for the wax to smoke. I have it just hot enough to melt the wax. I don't race but I do want my board to last as long as possible. Should i use a base prep wax and a new iron?
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steelglass
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Posted: Aug/23/2011 at 7:20pm |
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I use the hot wax cleaning method when I was snowboards. To conserve wax I just rub the block of wax on the iron and crayon it on the base to give it a real thin layer. After that heat it up and scrap it off. The only time I use cleaners is when I make repairs.
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highway12south
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Posted: Jun/19/2011 at 12:16pm |
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Thanks for that read
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Npomfret
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Posted: Jun/01/2011 at 12:04am |
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Thanks for the tips guys!!
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bmorse
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Posted: May/31/2011 at 9:17pm |
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I use a base cleaner made by SWIX, but I only use it to clean the base if it is super dirty. I don't use it everytime I wax, just when it needs it. I've never had any issues with my base drying out, but when I do use it (which is rare) I use just a ilttle but.
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barnyard
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Posted: May/31/2011 at 3:29pm |
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I always use a base cleaner if it needs it. I've never had it dry out my board or do anything negative to it. I use One Ball Jay biogreen citrus.
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Dice
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Posted: May/17/2011 at 1:08pm |
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That's what I use for base cleaning! To remove dirt and what not which otherwise would
limit my base absorbtion of wax!!!
![]() And that's what I used as base prep before waxing to have base prime and ready for a good hot wax.
![]() And then comes a nice hot wax...
cheers...
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zakk
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Posted: Mar/28/2011 at 9:14am |
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that is a hell of a find. def going to rethink using the base cleaner and the scraper sharpening tips were cool. thanks for sharing this.
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canadianbacon
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Posted: Mar/26/2011 at 9:52pm |
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Dude seriously, the aggression is completely unwarranted. 1) Apparently you've never ridden a mountain like bear that cakes crap on your base, 2) I've worked as a shop tech for years, and citrus base cleaner is not dangerous to your base 3) Once the base cleaner is no longer present in liquid form on your base, you can begin a base cleaning pass with your wax, which will remove contaminants, as well as any base cleaner that is still in the base. This keeps the base from drying out, and get your base well cleaned and ready to absorb your base layer. 4) Every little thing counts when tenths of a second means the difference between 1st and 4th 5) Even the article mentioned in the original post encourages citrus based base cleaners. It says to not pour on, just damp a cloth and wipe base, the properties of the cleaner acts as magnets that will bring up material that wax won't always bring up Don't fight a losing battle |
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EMHM00
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actekboarder
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Posted: Mar/26/2011 at 9:35pm |
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will keep this in mind when i work on my board.
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shop_3694
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canadianbacon
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Posted: Mar/19/2011 at 12:55am |
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wastes alot of wax, and is relatively ineffective compared to a citrus base cleaner. You just need to make sure your not letting the base cleaner dry out your base
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jenni
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Posted: Mar/19/2011 at 12:40am |
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you could remove it with the hot wax method where you drip and remove right away. waste a whole lot of wax though
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canadianbacon
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Posted: Mar/19/2011 at 12:38am |
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you shouldn't wax without removing contaminants from your board, you should always use a citrus cleaner, and always clean your base before a wax, if you want to do it the right way. I will never do a race prep wax without cleaning the base and removing contaminents
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keljai
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Posted: Mar/19/2011 at 12:26am |
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the base cleaner can be used, but dont use it unless the base is really dirty or required. it dries out the base if you use it too much. but if you gotta use it, use it
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strider2375
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 11:44pm |
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good to know
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kel
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 11:01pm |
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what canadianbacon said, its a citrus base cleaner that you want to clean the board not excatly a oil remover NOR dish washing detergent
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:36pm |
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holy crap thats more than i wanted to know about waxing. good info nonetheless
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canadianbacon
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:19pm |
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no you don't use any of that, you buy a citrus based base cleaner from your local snowboard shop |
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aecho1231
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:01pm |
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i wouldnt recommend using dish washing detergent. go to your local auto zone place, and get oil remover/greese wash.
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canadianbacon
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 9:33pm |
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the title of this article is wrong
from the article itself: "BASE CLEANER TIP A leading p-tex manufacturer advises that to help minimize any chance of reduced wax absorption after cleaning ski or snowboard bases, wax solvents should not be poured directly on a base, but rather sprayed or dripped onto a clean, lint-free cloth or piece of fiberlene or base tex paper, and the base cleaned with the cloth." lol, pretty decent overview of waxing though, but this is too much for an average consumer, this really does mean much to anyone, unless your actually competing |
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bmorse
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 9:23pm |
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Very informative link. I've read it before, but nice to be reminded of good tuning and waxing tips. Thanks for the info.
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Posted: Mar/08/2011 at 2:00pm |
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cool lots of good tips
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ChuckJohns
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Posted: Feb/10/2011 at 6:46am |
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Waxing your board is for cheaters! Just ride edge to edge all the time and you avoid the need to wax your board :)
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 6:29pm |
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Great Information, have read this before but this time around picked up on things I missed reading in the past
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muddog257
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 6:20pm |
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What do you use, like what type of cleaner. Goo gone, Mean Green,etc.
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thanks
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 11:05am |
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Great knowledge to have, Thanks!
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ilovewww
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o wow i just got do reading that. that was long. but thanks i learn a lot i didn't know.
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unfortunately, base cleaner* may be the only option that will get all that stubborn spring dirt off your base...or at least the only real option for us basic, non-pro snowboarders
that dirt impregnated wax is hard to get off, but don't be tempted to just pour base cleaner on the base and walk away - don't let it sit! Instead, pour it on a cloth and just keep rubbing the base just until the dirt is gone...then hot wax immediately you may want to wait until the season is over to use any base cleaner... that way, after cleaning, you can just melt a fat storage layer of wax on there for summer *(or any all purpose orange/citrus based house cleaner) |
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Thanks for that site
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PS- This is what part of the alphabet would look like, if Q and R were eliminated
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windex??!!!...just buy some Simple Green
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shop_45296
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Posted: Apr/18/2009 at 9:50am |
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windex dries out your board more, but you're waxing right afterwords, it's not too bad. i just scrub it down with a paper towel and water before i wax. just make sure it dries before you wax
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heischjr
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Posted: Mar/30/2009 at 7:54am |
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i have heard you can use windex as a substitute for a base cleaner. Any thoughts on this?
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Posted: Mar/23/2009 at 11:07am |
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very good to know!
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^ good to here that they are dependable. Gonna have to grab it for like 12 bucks now :D
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