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scorpio67
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Topic: never use a base cleaner on your snow boardPosted: Sep/29/2007 at 10:11am |
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please read the following if you want the longest life of your board and the beast performance.....read "HOT WAX AND BASE CLEANING"....TRUST ME ON THIS ...ITS WORTH THE READ
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Raines
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Posted: Sep/29/2007 at 10:45am |
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very good:D
i like the pros tips:) |
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moldygiraffe
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zagfan5
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Posted: Oct/11/2007 at 10:12pm |
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dang that sites thorough
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myke
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Posted: Oct/12/2007 at 3:28pm |
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i've read that before.
There's some conflicting information in there though.
At one point they said tempatures in excessive of 240(i think it was) will damage your base.
Further down, they posted a tip somebody put in, that said the best way to get wax to absorb is to heat it with an iron to about 248 for like 5-8 minutes.
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Dr. Nu-Nu
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Posted: Oct/12/2007 at 6:26pm |
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good site find OP...
that's one of brody's favorites.
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natesnowboards
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Posted: Feb/09/2008 at 2:49pm |
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good site, learned alot bout waxes
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sambo2476
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Posted: Feb/10/2008 at 4:12am |
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awesome site so informative.
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yipperzz
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Posted: Feb/10/2008 at 7:53pm |
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am i missing something? where does it say never use a base cleaner? the only thing i saw was to put it on a cloth instead of directly on the base?
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scorpio67
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Posted: Feb/10/2008 at 8:33pm |
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this site is just as good if not better ,
Although base cleaners do work nicely, as suggested by Racewax.com they can be bad for the board of your snowboard as they can dry the base out making your hotwax a seemless waste of time.
They suggest doing a hotwax cleaning method. |
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yipperzz
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Posted: Feb/10/2008 at 9:55pm |
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yeah i can see how it can dry it out pretty badly if you use too much. but i only use it at the end of the season to clean off the crap from spring conditions. and i pour a little on the cloth and try to wipe it off. if it doesn't take enough off, i then put a little more. i think that warning is for people who pour it all over.
this is what i saw on the site: BASE CLEANER TIP A leading p-tex manufacturer advises that to help minimize any chance of reduced wax absorption after cleaning ski or snowboard bases, wax solvents should not be poured directly on a base, but rather sprayed or dripped onto a clean, lint-free cloth or piece of fiberlene or base tex paper, and the base cleaned with the cloth. |
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scorpio67
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Posted: Feb/11/2008 at 7:58am |
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I just think for my own personal reasons that if the boards manufactures say not to use these base cleaners there might be a suitable reason behind it, on the other hand we are not professional racers so will it effect us on the mountain enough to really notice, for me I just want the longest life out of my board and if avoiding base cleaners can extend the life of my board, why not? Good luck and stay safe on the mountain. |
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shop_3694
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Posted: Mar/29/2008 at 12:20pm |
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stark03
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Posted: Apr/15/2008 at 8:39pm |
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Base cleaners should ONLY be used when doing base repairs, or when you need to remove the wax on your board to ride in fake snow. Other then that NEVER use them rubbing alcohol removes dirt just fine.
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ANGRY AGENT
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Posted: Oct/22/2008 at 12:15am |
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Aren't fake snow and real snow the same thing? Anyways I enjoyed reading this, kind of like a refresher course. Thanks
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k2mix721
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Posted: Oct/22/2008 at 6:42am |
I do the same thing at the end of the season. In the spring my board gets sooo dirty and I have a white bottom. I get what I can off with hot scraping but what I cant I take off with that I take off with OBJ Citrus base cleaner (little tiny bit goes a long way) then before my boards go away for the season they get a nice fresh wax. I guess its your own personal preferance but that works okay for me and my buds![]() |
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ridesnowboarder
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Posted: Jan/01/2009 at 8:37am |
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I usually just clean my base with a warm rag before I wax
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bluedot_snow
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Posted: Jan/19/2009 at 9:58am |
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they must have changed the format a little because there wasn't a section that matched the phrase hot wax and base clean. I did read that a solvent or cleaner should be applied to a towel first and oh wait did they forget to mention to dilute it first!?! anyone who's going to dump a bottle of simple green or paint thinner on there deck and call it clean doesn't deserve to ride a snowboard they make these things called, oh what are they called directional skis?
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k2mix721
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Posted: Jan/20/2009 at 7:35am |
I would NEVER use either of those on any of my rides but simple green green might be okay because its all natural and the ingredients in it are not very strong. Still both of those are a no go for me though. The thing about putting base cleaner on a rag first is right on for sure and good call on diluting it a bit. One thing people need to remember when using base cleaner other than what you have mentioned is a little bit goes a lonnnnnng way for sure.
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soxplayer
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Posted: Feb/04/2009 at 12:11pm |
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ya hot scraping is way better, the bottom of your board is poarus like your skin so it soaks in the wax, the cleaner can do the same the oils in it are bad for the base, if you haave never hot scraped b4 try it, its no biggy and suppose to be excellent for your base
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volcomsnwbrdr7
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Posted: Feb/04/2009 at 8:32pm |
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thats what i like to see.
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myke
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Posted: Feb/09/2009 at 10:38pm |
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There are times when base cleaner does come in handy. The wax that builds up in your base can, and will, trap dirt and all kindsa nastiness over time.Â
I normally go over my boards with base cleaner at the end of the season - before throwing a heavy layer of wax on for summer storage. It just pulls all the built-up crud and dirt out of the base that otherwise would just be sitting there all year. Every so often over the summer - I check to make sure the bases aren't drying out - and if they are, give it a quick once over with some fresh wax (don't scrape before storing). The other time I use base cleaner, is if my boards get seriously fouled up during the early season. You get thin spots, rocks, treestumps, etc - and you end up with all sorts of dirt and gunk in there again. Base cleaner will pull all that stuff out - and give you a nice fresh slate to work with, so you can build up a good fast base for the peak season. Hot scraping works for day-to-day stuff, but there's times where it's just not enough. It will get surface gunk out pretty well - but if you have dirt and grime really mashed into your board - it simply will not work. That dirt and gunk will effect your board's ability to absorb fresh wax - and cause many problems in terms of actually having a fast board. If you're careful with the cleaner, the results of cleaning with chemicals can be far superior to that of just hot scraping and hoping it gets all the dirt out. The key is just to know when and how to use it. Use it as little as possible, as rarely as possible. |
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Posted: Feb/13/2009 at 1:20pm |
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Hmmmm. Interesting.
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Posted: Feb/25/2009 at 6:17pm |
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good sight... but isnt that sorta common sense
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Posted: Feb/25/2009 at 8:34pm |
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Thank you!!! I have been looking for a solid link to reference, now I've got one.
Making Steve smarter one post at a time.
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surface_damage
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Posted: Feb/26/2009 at 9:50am |
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pretty informative link
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icymallard
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Posted: Mar/01/2009 at 12:00pm |
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good tips here... i have no idea how temp consistent my dakine iron is... im getting worriedÂ
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morrowman54
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Posted: Mar/05/2009 at 3:25pm |
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dakines are generally very temp consistent
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azn_dan
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Posted: Mar/10/2009 at 9:00am |
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^ good to here that they are dependable. Gonna have to grab it for like 12 bucks now :D
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Posted: Mar/23/2009 at 11:07am |
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very good to know!
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heischjr
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Posted: Mar/30/2009 at 7:54am |
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i have heard you can use windex as a substitute for a base cleaner. Any thoughts on this?
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shop_45296
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Posted: Apr/18/2009 at 9:50am |
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windex dries out your board more, but you're waxing right afterwords, it's not too bad. Â i just scrub it down with a paper towel and water before i wax. Â just make sure it dries before you wax
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Posted: Apr/22/2009 at 1:15pm |
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windex??!!!...just buy some Simple Green
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Posted: Sep/21/2009 at 11:52am |
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Thanks for that site
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PS- This is what part of the alphabet would look like, if Q and R were eliminated
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Piranha
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Posted: Sep/22/2009 at 9:19am |
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unfortunately, base cleaner* may be the only option that will get all that stubborn spring dirt off your base...or at least the only real option for us basic, non-pro snowboarders
that dirt impregnated wax is hard to get off, but don't be tempted to just pour base cleaner on the base and walk away - don't let it sit! Instead, pour it on a cloth and just keep rubbing the base just until the dirt is gone...then hot wax immediately you may want to wait until the season is over to use any base cleaner... that way, after cleaning, you can just melt a fat storage layer of wax on there for summer *(or any all purpose orange/citrus based house cleaner) |
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 11:01am |
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o wow i just got do reading that. that was long. but thanks i learn a lot i didn't know.
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 11:05am |
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Great knowledge to have, Thanks!
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 11:08am |
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thanks
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 6:20pm |
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What do you use, like what type of cleaner. Goo gone, Mean Green,etc.
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 6:29pm |
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Great Information, have read this before but this time around picked up on things I missed reading in the past
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Posted: Feb/10/2011 at 6:46am |
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Waxing your board is for cheaters! Just ride edge to edge all the time and you avoid the need to wax your board :)
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Posted: Mar/08/2011 at 2:00pm |
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cool lots of good tips
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 9:23pm |
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Very informative link. I've read it before, but nice to be reminded of good tuning and waxing tips. Thanks for the info.
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 9:33pm |
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the title of this article is wrong
from the article itself: "BASE CLEANER TIP A leading p-tex manufacturer advises that to help minimize any chance of reduced wax absorption after cleaning ski or snowboard bases, wax solvents should not be poured directly on a base, but rather sprayed or dripped onto a clean, lint-free cloth or piece of fiberlene or base tex paper, and the base cleaned with the cloth." lol, pretty decent overview of waxing though, but this is too much for an average consumer, this really does mean much to anyone, unless your actually competing |
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:01pm |
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i wouldnt recommend using dish washing detergent. go to your local auto zone place, and get oil remover/greese wash.
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no you don't use any of that, you buy a citrus based base cleaner from your local snowboard shop |
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 10:36pm |
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holy crap thats more than i wanted to know about waxing. good info nonetheless
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 11:01pm |
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what canadianbacon said, its a citrus base cleaner that you want to clean the board not excatly a oil remover NOR dish washing detergent
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Posted: Mar/18/2011 at 11:44pm |
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good to know
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