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chris4355 
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 Topic: a question for the pro'sPosted: Dec/23/2008 at 9:52pm |
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how do i spin off a jump?
i know i have to come off the jump carving or heelside, followed by an ollie. but exactly at what point do i spin my shoulders? im just not able to get the entire process right... any tips? **oops i accidentally posted in gear talk section, if any mods could move this thread that would be cool. |
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Wizard1990
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Posted: Dec/23/2008 at 10:02pm |
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Look over your shoulder and your body will follow. Try it on a Trampoline first if you can.
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chris4355
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Posted: Dec/23/2008 at 10:14pm |
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wish i had one.
do i look over right before the ollie? basically start spinning right before i get air? |
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ANGRY AGENT
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Posted: Dec/24/2008 at 1:29am |
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approach the lip with your knees bent. I like back side when I used to do'em so I take off carving toe-side. as you are about to leave the lip stand up to pop off (ollie) stick your chin into your back shoulder and keep it there until you start to see the landing when you're coming around (270) and once you see it you should be able to get around all the way and stick your landing. key is keeping your chin tucked until you can spot your landing.
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percept
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Posted: Dec/24/2008 at 9:12am |
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turning your head is probably more important than turning your shoulders. if you concentrate on turning your shoulders and not your head, you wont be spinning anywhere. head first, the rest will follow. and dont put too much weight on toeside or heelside. youll fly off axis.
i also found whipping my arms around helped me complete the spins. you should start with 180s. i learned bs 180s first...keep your weight centered on the board...i shift my weight slightly to my tail. ill approach the lip on my toes. i like to keep my eyes on my back foot as i launch off the lip. youll need to be good with riding switch backwards with speed since thats how you'll land. make sure you ride away clean. revert landings arent clean. |
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Eastcoast27
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Posted: Dec/24/2008 at 4:58pm |
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One of the biggest mistakes you can make is carving too hard off a jump. Before you even get to the tranny (if you are going to spin backside) turn from a heelside carve into a LIGHT toeside carve as you ride up the jump. WITH AN EMPHASIS ON LIGHT. You pop of your toes but that doesn't mean you need to be railing a hard carve. Even though you are heading up the jump in a light toeside carve and will be popping off your toes, you want to make sure you are centered over your board, this will prevent you from spinning off axis. Keep you knees nice and bent as you ride up the jump (this will help you to stay centered over your board and aid with your balance as you leave the jump), then as you approach the lip start your rotation with your head and upper body, while popping off your toes. Suck those legs up and enjoy. You need to start the rotation before you have left the jump and are in the air, so that you have something to push off of.
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CraigD
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Posted: Dec/24/2008 at 7:43pm |
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Huck it.
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chris4355
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Posted: Dec/24/2008 at 7:52pm |
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thanks a lot for the tips guys, ill make sure to try these next time i go.
i just was never able to get the spin motion going because i kept my head straight. its hard to tell on snowboarding videos that they actually move their heads, i only noticed the shoulders. |
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Jdsimmons2
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Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 5:55am |
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its hard to tell on vids cuz they are pros and have fine tuned their spin and trick arsenal. Some don't have to look quite so hard to initiate a spin.
Like i said, they are pros, never a good place to look for trying to learn tricks. Unless it is an instructional video they are in, kinda like 20 Tricks (or whatever it is called). Even then, In my opinion, it is better to learn a new trick from somebody that already does them confidently and consistently |
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chris4355
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Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 9:36am |
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^^ very good point
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Jdsimmons2
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Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 10:14am |
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lots of times you can even find trick tips on youtube or similar sites, but finding somebody to teach you in person is your best bet
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Jdsimmons2
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Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 10:15am |
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no the only problem is finding somebody to teach me a triple cork 1800
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chris4355
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Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 2:39pm |
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lol i have no clue what that is but... good luck!
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Jdsimmons2
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Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 4:40pm |
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its a virtually impossible trick for todays standards unless you jump outta an airplane doing it
It was supposed to be a joke |
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ridesnowboarder
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Posted: Dec/25/2008 at 5:17pm |
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carve at the top of the jump, and throw your shoulders(that are wound up) as your leaving the jump
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Nater43
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Posted: Dec/26/2008 at 3:51pm |
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Great vid, Ride.
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ridesnowboarder
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Posted: Dec/26/2008 at 8:09pm |
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Yeah, I like it. It helped me learn them.
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chris4355
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Posted: Dec/27/2008 at 2:30am |
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thanks for all of you that helped out. i took all of your advices into much consideration and watched the video multiple times before riding.
I ended up pulling it off after 3 attempts... I was doing frontside 180s, next time i go im gonna try back side. again, thanks a lot |
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riderftw
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Posted: Feb/03/2009 at 11:20pm |
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for some reason i think backsides are easier for me, but thats just me
glad to hear you got it down, keep up the good work  |
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Timmay_650
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Posted: Feb/03/2009 at 11:29pm |
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I spin frontside some much easier than back. I can put down 3s frontside and have trouble 1s backside
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krispysteve
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Posted: Feb/04/2009 at 2:26am |
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This is pretty much it. A lot of the same things I was taught when I started spinning about 5 years ago. Nothing has really changed, because it works.
Steve
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eltaco
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Posted: Feb/04/2009 at 5:02am |
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Ride, that's a great video.
I too find backside to be much easier. So far, I have only done 3s and 5s off of small kickers... haven't fully gotten them figured out on tables. Watching that video helped a lot to distinguish my mistakes. I'm going up today; I'll definitely be trying this out.
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volcomsnwbrdr7
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Posted: Feb/04/2009 at 8:37pm |
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i always have a problem moving my body in synch with my board.
billy
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