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rook
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Topic: K2 GyratorPosted: Mar/15/2010 at 4:06pm |
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I have the chance to pick up a brand new 09 Gyrator 168 for a good price. Does anyone have any experience with it? Any thoughts will be appreciated.
It would be a pow board only for me (West coast cement pow mostly). And I will be breaking my 262mm WW Rule to get this thing (Its 258mm), but I have come to the conclusion that finding a pow specific board for guys with big feet is very difficult. |
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mattaleao
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 4:07pm |
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Spenser rode one last year I believe, i'm sure he'll speak up.
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rook
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 4:21pm |
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Ya I checked out his review (but It was only after 1 day of riding). Hopefully he (or someone else) can give me a bit more long term thoughts.
Things I have heard: 1) It have a crazy amount of Rocker, floats great but does have a tendency to throw you out the front. 2) Rides shorter than the size dictates, was told to size up by a board size. 3) Does not have a ton of pop (probably b/c of the rocker), but landings are soft and stable (but I am usually soft and stable so I am not sure if I will really notice that). Bottom Line when Baker gets 8+ inchs of fresh, I need (ok Want, I don't really need it) something better than my old GNU with the bindings set back. |
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Timmay_650
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 5:25pm |
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I feel you pain of finding a good powder board with a wide waist for a good price of course.
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 6:15pm |
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its only a "pow" board because it has a lot of rocker. i much, much prefer a real pow board, ie something tapered like a malolo/charlie/etc/whatever.
its a fun board for sure, and as far as non tapered boards in pow go, it floats very well because of the rocker. personally i find it to be more of a pow cruiser (as in not much aggressive riding/landing), but after getting back on other boards, i realized it was a hindrance for me when it came to landing and everything. it was significantly easier to roll out on the tail if you landed just a little in the back seat, for example. i didnt like that, and it happened often. you could say it was just me, but it happened where its never happened before, and it doesnt happen with my other boards, so......... it did plow over chunky/tracked up stuff quite well because of the lifted nose, and it was fun on groomers cause it rode loose and was SUPER easy to "butter," but with all the boards ive ridden in the last few years, i wouldnt purchase one again just because of the mega rocker. its still a rad board though.. this is just my personal account. if you want a REAL pow board for PNW stuff, please get something tapered. if you havent ridden something tapered before, try it. buy a malolo 66 perhaps. they float more, naturally, than anything without taper. fact. plus, you still have a real tail (cambered, even) for slashing and stomping landings, with the big, rockered nose. or hell, get one of those new jones boards. those things are sick.
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 6:17pm |
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edit: i forgot about the waist width thing. the malolo 66 probably wont be that wide (i dont know off the top of my head) but im almost positive the jones freeride/tapered deck is wider, or comes in wides.
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rook
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 9:38pm |
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Thanks for the input.
The gyrator has 1mm of taper hahaha. I picked it up to try it out (only $140Cdn) and brand new so if I don't like it I am sure I can sell it. I was worried about the mega rocker for the drop/jump landing reasons but I am sure I can figure it out.
So the Charlie 164 has a 260mm waist, which would be wide enough. Any other pow boards that have wider waists of the top of your head (besides the Jones). If there is I will continue my search and If I find on I will just sell the gyrator. |
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 9:40pm |
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oh, charlie! i totally forgot about him. buy that. dont think. just do it. its the pow board for real people! 399 and epic shape/design! pow board for rippers! i have been riding mine all week and cant get enough. epic everywhere from two feet of fresh to chunky groomers.
the gyrator does have 1mm taper technically, but obviously it doesnt do anything. i emailed k2 about it last year cause i was curious about it, and one guy swore the gyrators he had were actually 10mm (like a supermodel or something).. the k2 guy said it really is just 1mm, and the reason is because of the shape/sidecut, thats just how it ends up. i dont know why they couldnt just tweak it to say they were the same widths at the contact points. at that price its a no brainer though. thats a good "im not sure about this board, but i want to test it out" price. who knows, you may like it a lot. i probably would have liked a bigger one too, for like... i dunno, a wide-open fresh-pow board.. but like ive said....... im a taper guy. i love taper. cant have enough taper. 20mm is the sweet spot.. 30mm is the deep spot.
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rook
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 9:59pm |
Thats exactly what I was thinking about the price, but you are right about the Charlie. I will begin my quest to look for one right..........now. If anyone comes across a 164 that someone wants to git rid of let me know. P.S. anyone ever ridden a Smokin' Pinner
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PATKOUG
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 10:00pm |
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Arbor Abacus 164 has a 260-something mm waist... |
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rook
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 10:05pm |
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Ahhh.... Arbor I knew I was forgetting someone major. Arbor always throws love to us damn samsqanches.
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 10:08pm |
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and i just realized i didnt actually forget the charlie, i just tossed it out since you were up at 168, maybe you wanted to keep it that long and the 64 might not be as long as youd like. how big are you anyway?
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rook
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 10:12pm |
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6'2" 200. I am a longer board guy, but I think if it has 20+mm of taper I can go down to a 164ish, for powder.
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 10:13pm |
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oh youll be fine. johan rides the 64 and i think hes a fairly similar size.
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rook
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 10:17pm |
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The search is on....... I should pm Johan and see if he wants to unload his. (I know he got it cheap hahaha)
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 10:26pm |
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porters tahoe has the 64, ~315 shipped to canada. i would link you, but sierra censored their URL to come out as google.com
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rook
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 10:29pm |
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Link not worky...... I can ship to the US if its cheaper too.
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 10:32pm |
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i edited the post..
they charge 35 to ship a snowboard to canada, which is spot on in my experience. they probably use USPS. chappy has lots of canadian friends so porters is pretty canada-friendly.
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rook
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 10:36pm |
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Nice thanks, I will look into it. I still might hold out until the summer.
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 10:44pm |
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or next year.. same 399 price, but a sintered base and carbon... its like getting a discount without it even being on sale.
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