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portmex20
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Topic: waxing--metal or plastic scraper--Posted: Apr/22/2010 at 2:57pm |
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if you are careful and confident on scraping the board properly, then the metal scraper is the way to go. If it is your first time waxing your board yourself, which it sounds like it is, then go with a plastic scraper.
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NoYaDe233
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Posted: Apr/22/2010 at 2:59pm |
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i tried metal over plastic this year and like it a lot better for scrapping. If I gouge the base I have only myself to blame for not paying more attention. |
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stehoul199
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Posted: Apr/22/2010 at 3:01pm |
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plastic is better. Its to easy to gouge with a metal scraper.
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trixter2004
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Posted: Apr/22/2010 at 3:02pm |
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plastic definitely
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volador
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Posted: Apr/23/2010 at 8:24am |
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I think plastic is better.
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prinz
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Posted: Apr/23/2010 at 8:25am |
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I use metal first to remove the bulk ..then plastic...
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Riceeboy
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Posted: Jan/08/2011 at 12:07pm |
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hmm im having a difficult time finding a plastic scraper, can i simply use a plastic ruler?
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monihani
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Posted: Jan/08/2011 at 12:10pm |
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An ice scrapper that you use for your car windows does just fine.
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bhswrestler150
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Posted: Jan/08/2011 at 12:25pm |
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Is it worth it to buy a kit? (along the same lines dont wanna start a new topic)
Trusnow has the Dakine kit with Iron, Wax, Plastic Scrapper,Metal Scrapper, Edge tuning tool, 10" file, wire brush, pocket stone, P-tec, and and scotchbrite pad. Cant see myself touching my edges except for maybe deburring them. I guess the alternative is a 40 wax iron, 10 wax, and a 10 scrapper. is the extra 25 or 30s worth it? |
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Angry Midget Yo
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Posted: Jan/08/2011 at 12:27pm |
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The kit is fine except for the wax that it comes with.
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javabean
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Posted: Jan/12/2011 at 6:13am |
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agreed with angry midget. the wax they give you is pretty junk. i bought the dakine kit and just began waxing my boards and for the most part, iron, wax and scrapper is good enough. haven't really used the wire brush or the scotchbrite, but i did buy a larger brush to smoothen out the wax after scraping.
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tomek77pl
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Posted: Jan/12/2011 at 6:20am |
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i just use a plastic scraper which is does the job for me
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snowmen
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Posted: Jan/12/2011 at 6:21am |
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+ 1, I have the the Dakine kit as well and am happy with it but suggest that you buy a brush (which doesn't come with kit). I would only use a plastic scraper, you will risk damaging the base with metal.
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javabean
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Posted: Jan/12/2011 at 6:37am |
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woops. was too busy praising the kit but forgot to mention my scraper preference. i've been using the plastic scraper and been good with it so i just stuck with it after hearing the damage a metal one can do |
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nautika96
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Posted: Jan/12/2011 at 7:00am |
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like everyone else has said- i've always seen the metal scraper only for ptex jobs and plastic for wax. I'm going to start waxing so I think I'll stick to plastic to prevent messing up my base.
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fishkur
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Posted: Jan/12/2011 at 7:46am |
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Yes, a metal scraper can scrape wax off your base. No, that's not what it's meant for.
One could also use a kitchen knife or a wire brush to scrape the wax off. With proper care, you could do it right, but there is a better tool for the job. That tool is a plastic scraper. To summarize: Waxing = plastic scraper Base repair = metal scraper |
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javabean
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Posted: Jan/23/2011 at 6:44am |
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lol. seriously, plastic scrapers aren't that expensive. it's not worth cheaping out on a few bucks and risking adding damage to the base
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JL524
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Posted: Feb/01/2011 at 2:05pm |
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I tried using a plastic ruler and ice scraper. I think im doing it wrong because its really hard to get to smooth. =/
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iheartloveland
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Posted: Feb/15/2011 at 9:32pm |
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i hot wax about every 4-5 trips, depending if the snow is crappy. i have a really bad habit about losing stuff over the summers though, or forgeting things on winter break, so i could care less about having a "real scraper," and im not shaun white, so i pretty much use a credit card or my old school id. it's soft enough to never mess your base, plus you can sharpen it with the edge of your board. anyways once its flat and smooth, i go over it with a base brush.
when doing base repair, metal is a must. |
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ozmotion
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Posted: Feb/15/2011 at 9:55pm |
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if you plan to wax your board yourself often, i haven't really found anything that quite matches a ~$7-$10 store-bought scraper. i've used a small piece of plexiglass from homedepot, and it works, but the thicknesses they carry are rather thin, making the job less efficient. ice scrapers work too, but they're usually kinda narrow, so you have to scrape more. lastly you could get true thick plexiglass or acrylic from an industrial supply, but the smallest piece you could buy would be relatively pricey.
start with a homemade scraper to see if you don't mind waxing yourself.. if you see yourself doing it for a while, pay for a nice one |
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surgyon
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Posted: Feb/15/2011 at 10:23pm |
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didn't know they made metal scrappers thought there were only plastic scrapper
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Skio25
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Posted: Feb/15/2011 at 10:32pm |
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Yes the kit is worth it, it is a lot cheaper than buying things separately and is worth it in the long run. The wax is crap but if you're broke then crap wax is better than no wax - especially if you wax frequently.
I usually use a plastic scraper but start or use a metal one when I'm in a hurry. If the plastic scraper dulls then put your file on a flat surface and file it down until the edges are sharp again - instead of buying a new one. |
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barnyard
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Posted: Feb/17/2011 at 10:12pm |
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I now use a metal, as I got sick of re-sharpening my plastic one. you have to be a bit more careful I suppose, but I've never had a problem with it.
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kingman756
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Posted: Feb/17/2011 at 10:15pm |
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ya plastic ones get dull. go with metal.
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bmorse
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Posted: Mar/26/2011 at 12:35pm |
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I've always used plastic so I have no experience with the metal scrapers, and yes they do get dull, but from what I've been told by other snowboard techs who work in shops, you have to be a bit more careful with a metal scraper so you don't gouge or damage the base. The plastic may give you a little more leeway, but again, I only have experience with plastic scrapers and I've always had good luck with them. |
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Posted: Mar/26/2011 at 12:53pm |
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I use plastic and prefer plastic because if you mess up with a metal scraper you could ruin the wax on your board or mess your board up.
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Posted: Mar/26/2011 at 1:01pm |
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I use both even though i shouldnt use metal. I use the metal to remove the bulk if the wax and use the plastic when get closer to the base. im pretty good about handling the metal so i dont wreck my base, but i have had years of practice so that does help.
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Posted: Jan/08/2012 at 7:35am |
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Best of both worlds - plexyglass. I've experimented with metal and plastic and found that a sharp plexyglass scraper gets the job done. You can even make your own if you know what your doing - and you can get them in any size.
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Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 11:20am |
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I'm thinking about getting the dakine kit to replace my home iron i already have a surplus of purl and swix wax so could i use the dakine stuff as a base cleaning wax?
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Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 11:33am |
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FYI, CD's work to scrape too. Also you can detune a board with a rock.
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Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 11:37am |
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What the hell is with all the thread digging? It's like every topic about waxing or bumping boards in lift lines is being dredged from the forum depths today.
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batmanwest
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Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 12:04pm |
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There is a certain member, that shall remain nameless as she knows what she has done!! ![]() , But anyways, her post contained pretty much a hyperlink to every single wax related thread on TS. It was an attempt to show the noobs, and not so noobs, there does not need to be another thread about wax. Problem is when so many links are broadcasted, it can have this kind of negative effect. The better solution? Get some more mods on here to, well...moderate. ![]() Oh, and I don't use plastic or metal scrappers, I use my cats. They love the attention, and their thick fur pulls all the excess wax off- win win. |
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Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 12:08pm |
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plastic
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ThatNotWhatUrMomSaid
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Posted: Jan/09/2012 at 12:13pm |
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Cd's and a rock??? Dude must be broke! Don't do it! Get a 5 dollar scrapper and call it a day.
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NO NO NO NO NOOOO.........dear god... |
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Like, OMG, I can't believe this was so obvious...why didn't I think of that? You, sir, are a genius!
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batmanwest
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Oh god damn it...can't we just let this thread die already? ![]() As for genius, I like to think so. Their fur really works so much better than a scotch brite pad, really puts a nice buffed sheen on the base.. |
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