Appeals to Spam-

Originally posted by athousandmonkeys I still vote down every bad review I see. Perhaps a better system would be for reviewers to receive points ONLY if their reviews are at least one point in the positive? It could be one point per positive, up to a maximum of 5?

This could be a good way to go in an ideal situation.  Hopefully less people will write crap reviews since there is no immediate points, leading to it being easier to weed out the remaining crap reviews.  On the flip side though, there could still be a bunch of "Holy hell, wtf were they thinking writing this" type  reviews left out there, but hopefully not as many.  It almost seems, and I hate to say it, that they need a full time person to review the reviews before they go live. I don't know, there has to be a happy medium there somewhere.

Flagging things of this nature implies that folks ARE a little drunk on a power trip and very FASCSIST against folks trying to actively participate in what (I believe) is intended to be an open, diverse community. Whether they are just going for points or not (or any other personal motivations, for that matter) really seems like it should be of no concern to you. That is why the daily cap was put there in the first place...not so you could nit-pick at the minor comments made by folks that go through the trouble to go to the site everyday, view advertisements, and perhaps participate in other threads in what a handful of elitists may dub a more relavant manner. If, for some strange reason, a ton of folks complained about someone making too many comments about snow at a particular resort on a thread topic about bindings, I seriously doubt reviewers are suddenly going to start flagging those.

Its nice to pretend that "active participation" shouldnt be an issue nor a consideration made by expert members or staff. But the actual reality is that this is simply not true. Active participation is ENTIRELY what the points system is about. You are rewarded with a point every time you actively contribute to the forums. These WILL be judgement calls. But because the threshold is so incredibly high (30 flags), the judgement factor will not only be balanced out around the 5 flag mark, but by around the 20 flag mark it will shift heavily towards the conclusion that you are OBJECTIVELY and CONTINUALLY failing to contribute to the community actively.

Ask yourself this: If active participation wasn't a problem why would they (not us by the way, but the people running this ship), provide us the ability to spam flag posts whilst simultaneously giving you a 30 point limit.

It is because active participation is pretty much the nub of the points for posts system. There is no way around this.

If they believed the daily cap was enough in itself we would not be given the power to flag posts. NOR would you receive a thirty point buffer. I'm not saying this to be a dick, but to explain that we do have the power to flag posts and its not to give us some arbitrary moderation ability so we can get in touch with out inner fascist. :) Go back to the threads when nighthawk gave us guys the spam flag power and it will answer your question on active participation almost entirely.

None of us want to be fascist, we just want you to remember that the system exists to reward you for ACTIVE participation, not just for participation. It is a consideration, and is in fact the sole consideration when someone flags yoru posts. We have nothing against you, nor are we trying to flex our epeen or show you how awesome and bossy we are, we just have to look after the system so that everyone benefits form it at the end of the day and it doesnt in fact get pulled.      

Holy...wall of text, but don't worry I skimmed/read most of it.  Ipp how long does it take you to write all of this out?

Anyway I don't understand why people are so upset about the whole spam flagging of posts.  Unless if you're a consistent dick your post will not be flagged.  I would think it's very hard to reach the 30 post threshold since

1.  how many posts do you think there are that are posted on this site during the day?
2.  do you honestly think the expert members are sitting there watching every single thread? 

Think about it, there are only a handful of experts and the majority of them don't even post on the forums anymore or even check it out because they are fed up with all of the junk that's being generated.  Staff I don't know about, but I don't see many staff around.  So they are understaffed (staff and experts included) trying to keep the forums clutter free. 

Contribute something worthwhile and you should have no issue, there are not out to get you as some of you seem to believe.  They are people too...the experts don't even get paid and they're just at the site because they like hanging out here.  They have real jobs they have to attend to.

So wow...look what you made me do ipp I'm writing a wall of text

EVERYONE JUST CALM THE F DOWN ABOUT THE POST FLAGGING (smiley put so ppl don't think I'm actually yelling at you) 

Holy...wall of text, but don't worry I skimmed/read most of it. Ipp how long does it take you to write all of this out? Anyway I don't understand why people are so upset about the whole spam flagging of posts. Unless if you're a consistent dick your post will not be flagged. I would think it's very hard to reach the 30 post threshold since 1. how many posts do you think there are that are posted on this site during the day? 2. do you honestly think the expert members are sitting there watching every single thread? Think about it, there are only a handful of experts and the majority of them don't even post on the forums anymore or even check it out because they are fed up with all of the junk that's being generated. Staff I don't know about, but I don't see many staff around. So they are understaffed (staff and experts included) trying to keep the forums clutter free. Contribute something worthwhile and you should have no issue, there are not out to get you as some of you seem to believe. They are people too...the experts don't even get paid and they're just at the site because they like hanging out here. They have real jobs they have to attend to. So wow...look what you made me do ipp I'm writing a wall of text EVERYONE JUST CALM THE F DOWN ABOUT THE POST FLAGGING (smiley put so ppl don't think I'm actually yelling at you)

Haha, you youngins dont even know what a wall of text really is... Well, actually since i post on the site you probably do :) I know people get narked by the length of my posts, but truth is theyre often full to the brim of brilliant insight, and to cut them down would be like taking half the colors out of the rainbow!

Only kidding, i have no social awareness with messageboards, but dont worry, ive been posting epics this long for about 8 or 9 years and havent learned yet so its unlikely i could change it even if i felt i should. i dont alas :)

you should get hired to be ipp's editor hana. great work... really, just astounding

my personal favorite was "This is not a review, just an headsup"

oooh, this is a long forgotten gem. Fair necro though so i wont flag you ;) 

Originally posted by fj5 Originally posted by nuggetuconn Originally posted by Sintexo my personal favorite was "This is not a review, just an headsup" Seriously, and where would I post this? I don't know about you, but a lot of people were excited that the Custom V Rocker was coming in Twin. There was a rumor that it was only it was only 2013 Release. I just giving a heads up that it is continuing next year. I'm just being helpful and saving people $530 bro. If it's not a review, don't post it in the review section.  OR you could have commented on an existing review.

You don't get points for that thou 
And ippy. I bet he's not gonna go and read through your post for future reviews he just wants his current ones fixed. 

Haha over explainer. 

Yet to check that one out. 
Looking to go to nagano/hakuba next year. Only hit up goryu/47 last time i went (2years ago now ) but i want to check out more. Not sure if i should spend the extra to go Niseko yet. (Speak japanese so i don't have to stay near western places, thank ma parents!)

Off topic of this thread but haha, Thanks heaps for the reviews so far. Really like them and appreciate it.  

Yer sounds good. I'll look into it more. I'd be happy anywhere to be snow honest but I'm heading with a friend 3weeks, 2 for a cultural trip Tokyo down and then snowboarding for a solid week. Somewhere not hakuba might be good for new sights as well. Get to actually venture nagano. I'll hit you up for advise closer to plans!!! 

Screw you copper!