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bhswrestler150
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Topic: Can't ride in a perfectly straight line HELPPosted: Jan/05/2011 at 2:54pm |
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So I can make it down blues and blacks at any Resort in New England. Can lay down some pretty aggressive carves, can point my board down hill and bomb it when needed as long as im riding a slight edge.
However especially at lower speeds I cant ride a straight line. Its driving me nuts! The hardest thing for me to ride are the narrow almost flat trails that usually connect the bigger trails. The only way I can describe it is it feels like my tail wants to slide forward on the toe edge side, I end up catching and edge and eating it. almost like starting a toe edge stop but facing the wrong way....(if that makes sense) Ive had buddys watch me and no one can seem to figure it out. the only thing that seems to help is to be up on a slight edge but on narrow slow runs that doesn't work so well cause it kills your speed. |
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Backflipmasterdana
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Posted: Jan/06/2011 at 12:41pm |
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Hi bhswrestler150,
Believe it or not, riding in a straight line at low speeds is one of the tougher skills in snowboarding. I've been riding for 15 years, coaching for 12, and I still dread taking those connecting trails...
There are a few things you can do to help eliminate edge catches in these situations:
1) Try to keep pressure on one edge all the time. You can accomplish this by keeping your legs bent to keep your balance, and either put extra pressure on your toes or on your heels by flexing your ankles and keeping yours knees bent.
2) I think the reason your back foot is sliding forward is because your weight isnt equally distributed over your board. Most people load the nose with with most of the pressure when riding in a slow straight line. This will release all the pressure from your back foot and the tail, resulting in the tail moving around more freely and sometimes unexpectedly! Its kinda like your doing a slight nose-press without knowing it. The best way to correct this is to equally distribute your weight on both legs. A trick is to try and push both feet outwards so you feel the outside of your feet pushing up against the side of your bindings. Also, you can try pointing front knee towards the nose and your back knee towards the tail, this is called a "cowboy" stance cause its like if you were sitting on a horse. This position pretty well guarantees equal pressure on both legs.
Try these 2 techniques out next time you ride, if you are still having trouble, send me a message and I'll give you some more pointers. Good luck!
Backflipmasterdana
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fostpaint
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Posted: Jan/06/2011 at 12:50pm |
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To piggyback on Dana's suggestions, pay attention to how well stacked your shoulders, hips and feet are. Everything should run straight down in a truly "proper" stance. If you are opening up your stance and rotating your shoulders to face forward (a natural thing to do, as we instinctively want to face the direction we're traveling) you are putting rotation into your stance that will transmit down through your hips and ultimately into your feet. This, coupled with the weighting issue Dana mentions in #2, is going to result in a slow (or not so slow) rotation in your board as you flat base.
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bhswrestler150
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Posted: Jan/06/2011 at 5:35pm |
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Guys thank you. This community is great
I think im doing the double whammy. I am a little front foot heavy and I am opening up my stance a bit. I guess I gotta try to keep my shoulders square to my hips and turn my neck a ton more so I can see I like the cowboy stance idea as well. Great explanaiton. Ill try this when I get out in the next few days and let you know how it goes |
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keljai
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Posted: Jan/06/2011 at 5:46pm |
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l think it has to do with your shoulder position. perhaps your not straightened out. try to keep attentive of your body position
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bhswrestler150
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Posted: Jan/17/2011 at 5:21pm |
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Guys,
Thanks very much, got out yesterday and your advice helped a ton. I was defiantly opening up my shoulders leading me to open my hips and had too much weight on my front foot. The cowboy tip helped a ton and also bending my knees a ton. Thank you very much for helping out |
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powpowpow
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Posted: Jan/17/2011 at 5:37pm |
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I'm with backflipmaster - I try to stay on an edge on the narrow paths or alternate (kinda going from heel to toe) if it's a bit wider.
Shoulder positioning is key and shoudln't you always ride with bent knees? They are your best shock absorbers. |
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getupk3v
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 9:23am |
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make sure that your board is waxed for those flats. crappy new england flats like those at stratton do really suck balls.
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tw0scoops
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 9:32am |
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I tihnk you just need to find the sweet spot and putting enough weight on both feet so that the back leg has enough pressure to not go squirrly. If I ever find myself losing control going flat, I just add some pressure(but not too much) to one edge to correct myself.
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casanovaa0
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 9:57am |
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i had the same issue. was using a really old board at the time and when i bought my new one that instability went away. not sure if it's because the new board is more forgiving or not. i did however shift my bindings one notch to the toe side.
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bhswrestler150
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 11:44am |
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i did notice my rcrew is easier to ride in a straight line than my crew
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fostpaint
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 11:49am |
Probably the rocker on it simply making it less catchy with the elevated contact points, and so rather than catching an edge and eating it, you just start to slide out and can adjust... but glad the advice worked out.
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Marumm
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Posted: Jan/21/2011 at 11:53am |
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Yeah, the RCrew (and especially the Sierrascope) you can just point in a straight line and just go. I was doing a charity run that involved a lot of flats, and for several hours rode my 'Scope. After a while, I switched to a cambered board and nearly got bucked off from catching an edge. The cambered boards definitely require you to pay more attention in the flats.
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jman254
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Posted: Jan/23/2011 at 1:59pm |
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Had this same problem man, tried it friday and the advice helped me out too.
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chrissv
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Posted: Feb/21/2011 at 9:12am |
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This was really helpful for me because i would catch edge all the time
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Byers
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Posted: Jun/04/2011 at 11:00pm |
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best trick anyone ever told me for this (and advice I will pass onto anyone that will listen) put your arms out wide (front arm to the front of the board, back arm to the back) and just point your arms where you want to go, it'll help you ride down narrow runs, dodge trees when your back country and let you hit rails, boxes and jumps perfectly!
Plus once you get into the habbit you'll instinctively do it every time you lose control and you'll avoid an embarrassing face plant! (plus when your learning to do jumps you'll find it helps your balance mid air!) |
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Lachsta
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Posted: Jun/05/2011 at 12:10am |
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I know exactly what you mean, theres nothing more embarassing than eating a faceful of snow when going 2km/h on flat run. When i am on those connecting trails i always try and keep more pressure on one of my edges to not keep the board completely flat. You can also try and lean on your back foot just a little to keep your board steady and avoid the back sliding out.
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TranTheDoctor
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Posted: Dec/21/2011 at 2:16pm |
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I was always told that you wanna stay on edge cause if you ride flat you'd just eat snow? Unless it is possible to ride flat. Cause me and my friend always ride together and he always zooms past me usually.
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2zz
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Posted: Dec/21/2011 at 2:29pm |
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you are not centered on your board. your weight bias is towards the toe or heel, that's why you feel like your weight needs to be on an edge instead of flat base. try forward lean first. if it doesn't work, you need to take off your bindings. strap in your boots into your bindings while the bindings are off the board. put the binding with boot strapped in on the board and center the boot on the board. make sure the boots' toe and heel hang over the board equally. and that's where you should mount your bindings along with your prefer stance width.
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rgilloway
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Posted: Jan/01/2012 at 2:47am |
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try and alternate between lightly on heels then on toes just feathering your weight as so youre constantly adjusting and assessing your balance
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jhoang6
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Posted: Jan/04/2012 at 3:18pm |
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Great tips!
I read this last year.. haha forgot about it.. and look its posted from last year too! good revive! kudos.
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