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marble49
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Topic: Binding setup for doing tricksPosted: Feb/04/2011 at 1:45pm |
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Hi everyone. I was wondering if anyone knows how I should be positioning my bindings if I want to work on tricks like 180's and 360's?
Mine are currently set to 15 and 9 degrees, like this _\__ \_ Should I be setting it to something like _\__/_ to make it easier to switch foot? Same degree for both bindings? And should I widen the stance a little more than usual? I ride a Sierra Reverse Crew 151 with Burton P1 bindings. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks!
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Longboarderdude
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Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 2:09pm |
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Its all personal preference... You are going to end up with a stance + some degree in front and - degree in back |
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Jermaine
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Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 2:13pm |
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packfan4ever
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Posted: Feb/04/2011 at 7:30pm |
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its whatever your like the best and feel the most comfortable with. i personally like +-15 or +-17 but its all personal preferance. if you watched the x games like almost every one of thous guys had their own unique stance thats works for them. mess around with it until you find what you like the best
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chriskot
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Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 7:59am |
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Try it out and see if it is easier to you. The angles that some people use might not be good for you and vice versa. I am 18 -9.
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mbesp
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Posted: Feb/05/2011 at 10:20am |
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How long have you been riding with your stance both forward like that?
I would say for sure bring your rear foot to a negative angle. Maybe try starting around -6 to get used to it and move it around from there.
If you keep them both forward like that riding switch is going to be really difficult.
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marble49
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 3:24pm |
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Yea, I tried riding 12 and -12 last night and could not bring myself to ride goofy (I usually ride regular.) Anyone else having the same problem? I was thinking of switching it to a goofy setup and for myself to ride that way for a few runs and see if it helps.
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Longboarderdude
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 3:29pm |
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are you able to ride goofy foot with your regular stance? (before you switched to 12 -12) Having angle in the back foot will help some with goofy riding but a lot is just learning how to ride the opposite way. After a while it will become second nature. |
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luv2shred
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Posted: Feb/08/2011 at 3:32pm |
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just test out however u want to. its all your preference. just tweak around and youll find the perfect stance
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woodhomie1996
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Posted: Feb/09/2011 at 6:49am |
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It is all preference, I used to ride 21, 9 and it did not effect me that much when riding switch (it feels a little awkward but thats all I knew) I now ride 18, -9 but it all depends on you. width can play a factor too
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panther
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Posted: Feb/10/2011 at 10:10am |
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riding switch is just hard at first. i like riding about 15 and -15 on my degrees, it makes it a little easier to ride switch
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soxfan47104
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Posted: Feb/10/2011 at 6:09pm |
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I also ride a sierra reverse crew 151 but with burton cartels and i prefer riding like this _\_/_ both the same degree +15 and -15
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lroling
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Posted: Feb/10/2011 at 6:16pm |
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It is personal preference on the binding postions. I do think that you back foot should be point the opposite way of your front. Right now you are riding alpine style. I ride 12 and -12 which did wonders for riding switch and helping with the 180. You should definately learn how to ride switch first though if you haven't already. Otherwise you will really hurt yourself while landing a 180.
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ozmotion
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Posted: Feb/10/2011 at 6:26pm |
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i'd say go for a neutral width (ie shoulder width apart)as it's the most comfortable...any thoughts on this?
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jc610
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Posted: Feb/10/2011 at 7:40pm |
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Maybe put your back foot at 0 for now and then start to duck out your stance and get used to it.
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zakk
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Posted: Feb/11/2011 at 7:03am |
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most ppl start at 15/-15 and go from there. for me that hurt my knees a bit, so I went to 12/-12 and its golden. having a duck stance will help, especially on a twin
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zakk
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Posted: Feb/11/2011 at 7:05am |
what? are you really suggesting a 0/0 starting point for finding an ideal duck stance.
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C02
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Posted: Feb/11/2011 at 7:05am |
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i ride 17/-15 for tricks
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C02
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Posted: Feb/11/2011 at 7:07am |
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oh i forgot, your stance width should be as far as it can go without making you uncomfortable. a wide stance will give you more control.
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Posted: Feb/11/2011 at 7:24am |
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Do what ever feels best but i like a little forward lean. Just a preference
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kymerj1
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Posted: Feb/11/2011 at 7:29am |
I ride centered with the same setup for the park. I found it easier to learn switch though with a board setup directional just for switch. It kind of forces you to ride switch for the day.
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muddog257
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Posted: Feb/11/2011 at 11:18am |
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Just test out different stances and see what you like. I ride mine 15, -15 so i can ride switch and goofy and it doesnt make a difference. It is all just personal prefrence.
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tjeddrey
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Posted: Feb/12/2011 at 7:31am |
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alot of park riders use "duckfoot" so like 15 -15 i use 12 -6 and it seems to work pretty well but ive heard that if you turn your back foot out more its easier to spin
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marble49
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Posted: Feb/04/2013 at 1:53pm |
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I've gotten a new setup. Rome Artifact 149 and Burton Malavita bindings. I'm riding a wider than normal stance duck feet 15/-15 and 180's into jumps are almost effortless now =) Will be working on the buttering once we get some nice powdah in the northeast. Will post pics this weekend!
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Backside10
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Posted: Feb/06/2013 at 4:15pm |
Learning to ride switch (meaning opposite of your normal stance) is all about putting the time in, just like when you first learned to carve. The best way to learn switch in my opinion is to spend a half a day or a whole day riding switch, no cheating. If you really do this, you will learn quick.... if you make one toe-side turn riding switch and then slide back to regular stance, it will take longer to learn. As far as binding angle, since you're starting out coming from a downhill racer stance, try a mellow negative angle on the back foot (-3 or -6). You don't have to be symmetrical to ride switch....hell, shawn white's feet arent symmetrical and I'd say he rides switch "OK" wouldnt you. |
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Posted: Feb/07/2013 at 9:32pm |
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It'll also help if you adjust the highbacks of your bindings more parallel to the edge.
This will give you more tweakability. Actually, narrowor stance will help you rotate better since there's less body width to spin around. |
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Posted: Feb/08/2013 at 2:51pm |
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FYI this thread was started two years ago.
I ride the same board. How do you like it so far? I certainly think it's a ridiculously buttery board, crazy fun to ride, but only when there's good snow.
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Posted: Feb/08/2013 at 5:06pm |
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I have always been a 15-15 person and every board I ride have a little bit of a outward cant for both feet for ease when riding switch and I just like being perfectly symmetrical.
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Posted: Feb/08/2013 at 6:37pm |
I also ride 15-15 mainly because of the switch symmetry too! I used to have 15-0 when I started but switch riding moved it to 15-15. I like it a lot. |
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cds4288
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Posted: Feb/08/2013 at 6:43pm |
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yup yup no matter what angle one foot is at, the other will surely mirror it on my boards. you never know when you might hit a jump a little off and need to land opposite of what you usually do or perhaps over rotate on a feature and need to effectively land on another leg. that is also why I always purchase true twin boards as well so you can never go wrong any way you land.
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Lux
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Posted: Feb/08/2013 at 7:50pm |
+21/-21 here on my jib board, probably increasing it to +24/-24 for this weekend. Footbed and highback cant become less useful as your binding angles increase. I reckon that, by around 30 degrees, cant is no longer effective.
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fj5
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Posted: Feb/08/2013 at 7:57pm |
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Lux, that's an insane stance... I don't think my C60 EST's even go that high! hahaha Do you find it helps with your buttering? Or just pure comfort?
EDIT: For the OP, I do recommend you have a +/- setup (duck) as opposed to +/+ alpine stance. That should really help with your switch riding, which is definitely good to have before you start trying harder tricks.
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Lux
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Posted: Feb/08/2013 at 8:19pm |
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Hahah well, 21 degrees has been my sweet spot so far: great comfort (for me) and helps (for me) with lots of pressing. Being that my feet point outwards to the tips, I get extra leverage and stability when leaning more body weight over to one end, which gives me more press angle.
You can simulate what I'm describing by standing in your room as if you would on a snowboard. Ducking out your feet angles lets your lean further over to either side with balance. But, ultimately, a person's physique will determine optimal angles, so take it for what it's worth.
I'm going to experiment with higher angles this weekend at Blue Mountain to see if I feel more stable or start feeling discomfort/restriction. So far, through experimentation, I've found that 60 cm is the best stance width for me. |
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Posted: Feb/18/2013 at 2:03pm |
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i got 15/-12 . a lot of people i know go perfectly symmetrical "duck" though (15/-15)
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