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spenser
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Topic: The Official Union Bindings ThreadPosted: Nov/29/2011 at 6:03pm |
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you can also buy from other shops, you know..
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itr43
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Posted: Nov/29/2011 at 6:46pm |
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Thanks. That confirms my understanding of the Union bindings. They didnt feel any heavier than the average binding. But I twisted my knee and the lighter the better.
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Posted: Nov/30/2011 at 11:30am |
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It was actually because of your info on Union as a company, and their tech, that led me to by the Atlas this year. So if your Union rep catches you and is po'ed, send him to me. :) Only one day on the Atlases thus far, but man I'm stoked on them. They are just made differently than other bindings. Lack of adjustments? No biggie, because the bindings conform to your boot so much right out of the box. Comfort? How about the lack of a baseplate, and the highbacks that flex right up to you, no matter how your boot is in them. Weight? Can't even feel them... a noticeable reduction from my Ride SPi. Responsiveness? I rode on hardpack/ice in the am, and 4 inches of fluff in the pm... with zero forward lean adjustments needed. The bindings quite literally conformed to the conditions and my style. Thanks spenser, and I hope you don't mind me bombarding you with questions!
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Posted: Nov/30/2011 at 11:43am |
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yeah spenser knows his Unions! check this is out spenser, finally got this in!! I love how it glows in the dark!! so bi+chin'! haven't tried a run on it yet..but hopefully soon!
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Jigkidd
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Posted: Nov/30/2011 at 2:42pm |
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Don't forget to rotate those highbacks, and give us a review once you've collected enough info to share about the bindings.
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luv2shred
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Posted: Nov/30/2011 at 4:13pm |
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spenser
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Posted: Nov/30/2011 at 5:01pm |
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it will look like everything else that glows in the dark, a dim green glow.
stoked you're stoked on the binders, and feel free to ask any questions you have.. here to help i haven't gotten to ride my atlas teams yet really.. one night time pow run but i won't count that. may get on them this weekend though, probably will have a bunch more new snow and i wanna ride charlie
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Posted: Nov/30/2011 at 5:05pm |
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i just got the 2012 union forces in the neon green and they are awesome! i rode them this past weekend and they are honestly the sickest bindings i have ever owned! They are so comfortable and they feel like nothing is even there. I will always make union bindings my first choice when i am looking to get new bindings. Has anyone rode the contacts? how are they?
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yuhui
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Posted: Nov/30/2011 at 6:04pm |
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woodhomie1996
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Posted: Dec/01/2011 at 8:03am |
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spenser's atlas team binders
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LegalBoarding
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Posted: Dec/01/2011 at 8:13am |
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Hey Spenser,
Do you have any info on this year's SL's. I've been looking at them and am not sure what to think about them. Last year they were force sl's this year i'm not sure what its based off of or how different they are. Care to enlighten me about them. I was really interested in last year's force SL's but they sold out super quick, so was waiting for this year, but since they don't seem to be based off the forces, i'm not sure what to think.
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MTpow
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Posted: Dec/01/2011 at 8:27am |
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There are force sl's and then there are sl's... 2 completely different bindings. This years force sl's are the Purple Rain...
http://www.trusnow.com/Union-Force-SL-Snowboard-Binding---Men's.asp
The SL have the stage 3 baseplate rather than the force baseplate the the Force SL's have.. |
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LegalBoarding
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Posted: Dec/01/2011 at 10:52am |
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Can you explain the stage 3 baseplate to me, i've been researching what that means in for a little bit and i still have no idea.
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LegalBoarding
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Posted: Dec/01/2011 at 10:52am |
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sorry double posted...
Regardless, which union binding do you think would be best. I'm a all mountain rider but i like to go to the park every so often. If i'm in teh park i'm just hitting jumps and a few boxes. Want to get into rails eventually. I thought the SL's would be good for all that, b
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spenser
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Posted: Dec/01/2011 at 1:06pm |
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same binding model, but it was called the force SL up until this year, it was a stage 2 (force) baseplate that was cored out and injected with carbon instead of fiberglass and also had a different highback. the binding just got an upgrade and since the base is not stage 2 anymore, they can't call it the force so now it's just the SL. technically yeah those are two different bindings now just cause the 2012 has an upgrade, but it's like saying the cartel is no longer the cartel since they switched the highback or changed the baseplate or whatever. the purple rains are just a limited binding, it's not an SL. it's a force baseplate with the old SL highback though, yes.
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RideTimeless
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Posted: Dec/01/2011 at 1:16pm |
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Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a noticeable weight difference with carbon injected baseplates? I'm assuming not, but I've shot myself in the foot for assuming before. |
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Did you google it?
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spenser
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Posted: Dec/01/2011 at 1:31pm |
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if you take the same exact base and compare fiberglass vs carbon injected, i'm not sure. i mean yes, there is a weight difference, but i don't know how noticeable it is. the thing that really makes them lighter is getting cored out. there's a list of binding weights somewhere so you could compare contacts to contact pros or something... pros are lighter but i forget by how much, and both are quite light..
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RideTimeless
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Posted: Dec/01/2011 at 2:06pm |
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I'll go search for that...in any case...Force + Contact Pro highback = Awesome! |
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Did you google it?
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yuhui
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Posted: Dec/02/2011 at 8:18am |
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it sucks that this year's force doesn't glow in the dark
have force footbeds always been the same or do they change them every year?
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RideTimeless
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Posted: Dec/02/2011 at 10:07am |
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yes, each yr it's a different design. sometimes it's a different color. sometimes it's there may be a "U" symbol on it. Other models don't. So, to answer your question, yes, they change every yr. Just like the Contact Pro. Last yr was the first yr. Now they have two colors. See, it changed. |
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chillman
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Posted: Dec/15/2011 at 3:26pm |
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Anybody else have problems with the leather on the straps peeling. I have resorted to superglueing it when it peels after every day....sucks. Wanna get some contact pro straps. Forces arent that comfy
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Posted: Dec/15/2011 at 3:39pm |
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how are the new forces toe strap. I loved the forces but the old toe strap kept falling off it sucked
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chillman
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Posted: Dec/15/2011 at 3:45pm |
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They you will most likely like the new one's better if you had problems with the old ones. I like the old ones better. Never had a problem with them. Are you sure you have them on right? that little black strip should be touching the boot (the top) not hanging off. Spenser has a pic somewhere in here on how to properly have it set up.
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yuhui
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Posted: Dec/15/2011 at 3:51pm |
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... i meant if it changed in actual design, not just color or pattern
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jhoang6
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Posted: Dec/15/2011 at 5:48pm |
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Anyone here have a take on the Flites they have? more or less responsive than the contacts/forces?
lotta talk about the others in the line. I'm curious about the Flites...just spend the extra $50 and go forces?
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chillman
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Posted: Dec/15/2011 at 6:34pm |
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Flites are wayyy softer than forces and wayyy lighter. never ridden the flites so i can't say too much
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spenser
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Posted: Dec/15/2011 at 11:43pm |
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i think "way softer" is an exaggeration, but they are definitely not the tank-like responsive bindings that forces are
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jhoang6
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Posted: Dec/16/2011 at 10:22am |
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For sure not tank like the Forces. but I'm sure it'll survive if you're not hitting those huge jumps probably would if you were to anyway.
So how about a comparison with the contacts? The Flites that is.
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Posted: Dec/16/2011 at 10:34am |
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if danny kass use the flite as his signature model base, i am sure it can take the hit. the contact might feel looser than the flite due to the extra paddings.
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hmmm...
Now What???
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jhoang6
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Posted: Dec/16/2011 at 12:03pm |
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Good point. What do you mean by feel looser? wow when I typed that out my mind went straight to the gutter... I'm thinking the Flites will be more responsive than the contacts. So in terms of responsiveness I would say. Force> Flite> Contacts hence stiffer binding. (wow i'm on a roll)
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luv2shred
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Posted: Dec/17/2011 at 2:10pm |
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Alright i think this might just be me but who doesnt like this years teams. I personally do not like them at all. I like last years teams a lot better. I hate this years highback. I loved last years one on the teams. But i mean give me some feedback and correct me if im wrong.
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spenser
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Posted: Dec/17/2011 at 2:43pm |
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you can't be wrong about what you like more or less than another thing. i personally like both a lot. forces were my go-to binding for years but i really, really like the new atlas base and the team highback. the new ankle strap is a lot better too.
as far as how they ride, i guess all i can notice is that the atlas base is a little more padded. response wise, they feel similar enough to me and i've ridden them on the same board to tell the difference. i like the look of my new teams more, but the force teams are also rad.
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luv2shred
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Posted: Dec/17/2011 at 2:51pm |
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Hahah sick. So if the team forces had the same technology as this years forces but just the graphic change. Which would you like the most?
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spenser
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Posted: Dec/17/2011 at 3:54pm |
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they are already the same thing as is
edit: unless you meant if team forces (2009 through 2011) and team atlases (2012) were the same tech-wise, and we're just comparing the look... i'd have to go with the team atlas still
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luv2shred
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Posted: Dec/18/2011 at 9:43am |
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Yeah thats exactly what i was asking. But did they make team forces this year or only team atlas?
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spenser
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Posted: Dec/18/2011 at 1:04pm |
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the team binding this year is basically the atlas. team highback though, which as far as we know is just an atlas highback that's not cored out.
2009, 2010, and 2011, teams were forces
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Posted: Dec/19/2011 at 1:17am |
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picked up some atlas's becuz they looked sick. rode on this week and was just amazed
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yuhui
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Posted: Dec/21/2011 at 7:25am |
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i made wedges to cant the footbeds, they feel so natural now
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Posted: Dec/21/2011 at 7:45am |
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Mmm, I want some of these sooooo bad.
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chillman
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Posted: Dec/21/2011 at 8:54am |
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What did you use to cant your forces yuhui? Is that a wooden shim?
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yuhui
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Posted: Dec/21/2011 at 3:02pm |
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i just drew a template and cut them with a band saw. then i sanded them with a circle sander (not sure if that's what it's called) to make them wedges
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chillman
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Posted: Dec/21/2011 at 3:05pm |
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sweet care to scan your template so others (me) can use it
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chips2853
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Posted: Dec/21/2011 at 3:06pm |
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anyone got some black ladders and maybe the quick adjust for highbacks they wanna sell or trade for white ones? L/XL? want to do some franken lol
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yuhui
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Posted: Dec/21/2011 at 3:15pm |
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yea sure
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chillman
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Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 3:18pm |
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Thanks man. I will have to do this in woods class
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chips2853
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i think i might try to make these at work out of plastic for my forces :)
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chillman
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Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 5:09pm |
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Do it! Plastic would probably work better than wood anyway. Les see that template!
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chips2853
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yeah i wanna see this template. i think the plastic is good because it cant swell upbecause of snow and water.
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Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 7:17pm |
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Hmm that is a good idea haha I'm sure i can steal some from the plastics lab.
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Posted: Dec/22/2011 at 7:24pm |
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