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JDiggidy
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Topic: Boot Fit TipsPosted: Nov/05/2012 at 8:53am |
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Hey TruSnow: My cousin is ready to start shredding this year. Problem: He's got HUGE calvs, (we're talking 20 inches plus!) but only wears about a 8.5 or so boot. He broke his foot a few years back, it got infected, and he walked on one leg for over a year... it made for one really big calf muscle, and the other is just big. Any reccomendations on a "wide calfed boot?" Or maybe just a boot with a lower height?
/ don't you dare just say "try some on." He has. A lot. So far, the Rome Libertine (trad lacing) fit OK, the Burton Moto was decent (the zonal lacing let him keep one half really loose), and one from K2 was hit or miss. He like the feel of my Burton Rulers, but we just want to make sure. He's tried on some Burtons, K2s, Romes, Solomons, and even a pair of Morrows or whatever the heck they were.
Remember that DC Park boot that only had 1/2 a liner? Would that help at all??
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MTpow
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Posted: Nov/05/2012 at 9:00am |
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best thing he can do is keep trying stuff on until he find something that works. Don't get boa... i would go with traditional lace bc he is going to need certain areas tighter than others due to the odd shape. Dual zone stuff like rome and burton speedzone would be ok but again.. more adjustment can be made with traditional laces. Whatever boot fits the best is the one he should go with. KEEP TRYING THEM ON.
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Peekaboo
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Posted: Dec/09/2012 at 8:42am |
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I have a question regarding boot fitting.
Im currently using Burton ruler with green Superfeet. My arch would hurt if I do any ground tricks or buttering/jump. What could be causing this problem? Im not sure if its the superfeet or the overall fit of my boots. |
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Posted: Dec/09/2012 at 9:03am |
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DarksideGTI
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Posted: Dec/24/2012 at 8:37am |
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I bought a pair of Burton Ambush boots two weeks ago. The first time riding in them, they really hurt my feet and caused my toes to go numb. The pain is coming from the balls of my feet. I figured I just needed to break them in and that the next time out they would feel better. Well I went up yesterday and had the same problems. At first they feel fine, but after about 10 minutes my feet start to go numb and my toes get really cold. I figured I was cutting the circulation off and so I loosened the lower zone which helped a little bit, but they still hurt. I am worried that they aren't going to get any better and that I will need to sell them or hopefully be able to return them. When I bought them, I tried on a few different boots and different sizes and these fit the best. My toes just barely touch the end of the boot just like my old Sabbaths. We heat molded them in the store, but I'm not sure that really did much. I'm not sure that going up a half a size will fix this issue, maybe the Ambush is just too narrow for me? Any ideas?
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aznst1rfry
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Posted: Jan/02/2013 at 4:18pm |
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thank you sir for the advice!
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CassinoNorth
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Posted: Jan/02/2013 at 4:39pm |
With heat molding it's still not going well? Might be a lost cause. I'd wear them 2-3 hours around your house the next few days and see how it goes. My 32's were killing my toes before I did this...now they're absolutely perfect. |
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DarksideGTI
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Posted: Jan/06/2013 at 4:30pm |
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Yeah we heat molded them in store. What is strange is that my old Sabbaths, which fit like a dream were size 11. The Ambush are size 10, I tried on the 11's but my toes weren't touching the end of the boot. With the 10's my toes are touching the end of the boot, but not cramped at all. This is how I have always sized my boots and they have always felt good. I am wondering if the problem is the width of the smaller boot. I will try them around the house some more. I initially tried that, but took them off when my feet started to go numb. There is also the possibility they are cutting off the plantar arteries on the top of the foot which is causing the numbness.
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Jibmonkey
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Posted: Jan/08/2013 at 6:26am |
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maybe you should also play around with how tight your wearing them? Didn't see it mentioned but you may be able to get away with no heel lift while also having it not as tight, which in turn may not cause your feet to go numb. Just a suggestion. Hopefully everything work out.
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Posted: Jan/09/2013 at 7:59pm |
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is zero heel lift possible?
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JDiggidy
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Posted: Mar/12/2013 at 11:09am |
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Ok guys and gals... I'm really tired of my feet hurting. I've mentioned it before, but I have really wide feet, and after a while, every boot i've worn has absolutly killed me. My current Burton Rulers are pretty nice on the easier type runs, park, and relaxed laps. But, as soon as I get back into the double blacks with the long technical "run outs" (flat ish with humps, jumps, and the wavey things skiers make on them)... i can't even stand up anymore... let alone want to do another run. The pain generally screams down the outside of my foot, but can also be in the arch area.
I have different (non stock) insols, and i don't even tighten the lower zone anymore on my boot... this helps, but makes for tons of heel lift.
This has been my MO for 11 years now, but now i'm getting old enough to just plain not want to do it anymore.
So, the only option i think i have left is to get the Solomon Dialog in wide. But, surprise surprise... there is NO place that i can find to actually try them on! My rulers and my 32 lashed felt great wile "carpet boarding" and walking around in the house... but they kill once put to the test.
Anyone try out these wide(r) boots before? how wide are they? My running shoes are size 8EEEE but i can also get away with 8.5EE. Someone online said they felt like EEE width. Does anyone know if i bought them in 8 or 8.5, will they still fit my M/L Union Atlas bindings?
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MTpow
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Posted: Mar/12/2013 at 11:14am |
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I'm surprised the 32's didn't work for you.. they fit a wider foot better than say most burton boots. how exactly did they kill? how long did you wear them? did you have any wiggle room in them when you first got them? heat mold them? Did the insoles you buy fit your foot match your arch to provide enough support? Pretty tough to deal with boot fit issues on the internets unfortunately... if nothing at all is working for you it might be time to drop some coin on some actual custom cork footbeds or orthotics
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Posted: Mar/13/2013 at 9:05am |
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I'm having a hard time finding a good foot pic on the google, but the pain is mostly in the 5th metatarsal (or the bones around it). even right now it's kind of a dull ache. maybe "turf toe" of that joint? maybe brevis tendon or one of its subsidiaries?
I wore my 32s for what... two or three seasons? they got worse and worse. I used to work at a place that could heat mold them, so i did it often. I put them on again last night, and its the toe box itself that is too tight. i was even considering cutting holes into the liner's toe box on them and giving that a try... I haven't worn them for two years, so it couldn't hurt, right? |
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MTpow
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Posted: Mar/13/2013 at 9:36am |
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seems to me if they were getting worse and worse as your wore them they were packing out and your foot was probably moving around a bit? do you remember if that was the case? if so, you would want to start off with a smaller size to begin with to combat the packing out. you might also just have a freak foot
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Posted: Mar/13/2013 at 9:53am |
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JDig - Have you considered seeing a sports podiatrist?
See if you have one local to you: http://www.aapsm.org/members.html
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JDiggidy
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Posted: Mar/14/2013 at 9:22am |
Well, pulled the trigger on the Salomon Synapse Wide in an 8.5 last night. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
Pow - you know, you maybe on to something about the boots breaking down in key places. My Rulers fit wonderfully for about 25 days, and maybe that's all I'm going to get out of them. Orthods may help keep the next pair from breaking down too quickly. also.. i'm thinking "freak foot" is probably the key words there!
Sideways - Thanks for the link man! There's a guy in my town, and it sertainly couldn't hurt to visit with him. This is not a snowboarding only problem for me, so it may help muchos.
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Posted: Mar/14/2013 at 9:30am |
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good call..sounds like a visit to the ortho might do you good.
Keep us posted as to whether or not these work better for you! |
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JDiggidy
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Posted: Apr/09/2013 at 9:54am |
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Well,
Two days in the new boots: Solamon Synapse Wide in 8.5.
First impressions:
1. stock footbed was garbage. the boot was wide, but the footbed was not. it had to go. switched to my normal cheapo 3/4 length.
2. sole is way thinner and firmer than my Rulers or 32s were. i could feel every pebble in the parking lot in them. This was bad for comfort in the lodge and etc, but great for board feel and performance.
3. way stiffer/more responsive than my Rulers were. a noticable differance for the better for performance. not as comfy to walk around in, more like a ski oot with the built in lean, but this is by far from a deal breaker. I noticed less heel lift and more power through toe side turns all day both days.
4. only wore them on two t-shirt weather days, but my feet were super warm. almsot too warm with my smartwool phd's. (probably helped heat mold them faster though!)
5. lacing system: people say they have a love it or hate it relationship. i'm leaning love it so far. not as handy as the burton speed lace system, but even riding all the slush i rode, never even hinted at looseining up. top and bottom are independant of each other.
6. liners: soft, squishy, really neat harness system that pulls your achillies and the area twoards the front of the boot. you can crank them down, so they feel snug, with the boots unlaced even. neat little locking device holds all day.
7. traction: bomber on the ice around the lodge in spring conditions.
8. important one... fit/comfort: off the charts so far. In day two, just to see what happens, i CRANKED them down in the parking lot. and then totally forgot i did that until we got back to the car at the end of the day. this is the first time in years that i haven't loosened or even taken my boots off once or more times during the day. not as nice as walking on a cloud or anything (see #2), but the comfort level was up a few notches for sure. I'm going to add a better insole over the off season, and i think i'll be good to go for a few years.
I'm really hoping this blend of performance/comfort continues.
EDIT: forgot to mention, fit in my Union Atlas bindings, but i'll have some adjustments to make to make them perfectly seemless. Toe caps kept falling off. Nothing some adjusting can't handle though.
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Posted: Apr/21/2013 at 11:57am |
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Wow, great guide...thanks for putting that all together. I wish I had seen this last year before I bought my boots. I get heel lift now and have to crank down on the laces to keep my foot relatively in place. Can't wait to buy a new pair, I'm tired of numb feet!
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Posted: Apr/22/2013 at 2:25pm |
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Try a 3/4 insole. I get the $10 ones is all, and they give you shock absorbtion and they take up some space in the heel area.
Could be a cheap fix for you.
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Posted: Apr/22/2013 at 5:58pm |
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Also it really helps to get boots with heat moldable liners. All of my Wakeboard and snowboard boots have those liners and no foot is the same and allows it to fit exactly to you. Everything I buy is based around the ability of customization.
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