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Angry Midget Yo
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Topic: Step In BindingsPosted: Feb/22/2011 at 12:47pm |
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I always see at least one person riding with those step in bindings whenever I go boarding, but are they really safe and stay locked in for whenever you eat it hard? Has anyone tried a pair before? How does it feel and perform differently from traditional strap bindings and Flows? I just don't think it's very safe and more so troublesome to use especially if snow or ice gets into your step in plates because your boot might not lock in as well so maybe that's why you never see a store sell any step in boots or bindings or it's been discontinued. Your thoughts?
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Brian2127
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 1:02pm |
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Stay away from step in bindings AT ALL COSTS! Trust me, you'll be glad you did. I use a Burton Cartel EST and love them. Take the 5 seconds to strap in. You'll be glad you did.
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SandYeti04
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 1:03pm |
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My brother rented a set-up with step ins and said it was a pain in the ass... traditional straps are the way to go in my opinion
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jman91
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 1:13pm |
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the feel is alot different and you have support with bindings
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rishihb
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 1:34pm |
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I used to ride step in, and never had a problem with the stability of the binding. But I prefer the strap bindings.. they are much better for support while riding, and they're easier to get in. If snow/ice gets in the step in binding, stepping in is a pain.
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luv2shred
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 1:39pm |
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when you say step ins do you mean flow bindings or do you mean the legit step ins.
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Spenser W.
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 1:44pm |
I think it's blatantly obvious from the original post that the OP is talking about "legit step ins" as you so artfully put it. He said: How does it feel and perform differently from traditional strap bindings and Flows? I think that by specifying BETWEEN step ins and flows then it would be totally illogical to come to the conclusion that the original poster is talking about flows. Therefore, OP is talking about "legit step ins." |
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snowmen
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 2:45pm |
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Step-ins can be a bit of pain to get into as you need to align them fairly accurately so you can end up spending time fussing around. I also noticed that they tend to pivot at the step in point and hence are not as responsive as strap in bindings. I haven't used these in about 4 years when I rented a setup with step-ins.
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Sirdangle
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 2:51pm |
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Dont go with step-ins they suck. I rode them a couple times... never again
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EpicFAIL
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 2:53pm |
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I didn't know they still made those. The only person I've really seen ride them were my friend and she's been off the mountain for 4+ years.....
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AyChan87
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 2:53pm |
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ive seen some old rental boards like that the clip ins look pretty sketch to me
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Angry Midget Yo
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 3:00pm |
I don't think they make them anymore but they still exist on the mountains is all. I don't think anybody is an full on advocate of step in. |
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SunFish
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 3:11pm |
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They were on the rental boards at my local hill until a couple years ago. Heavy with uncomfortable boots, just totally lame.
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sirelderly16
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 3:33pm |
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I wouldn't recommend it, i bit it hard while renting a board my first time trying to snowboard and momentum carried me beyond what my body could handle and i ended up twisting my knee and could barely board the rest of the day.
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eldolocal68
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 3:54pm |
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I'm a traditional binding guy, but was an advocate of step-ins when they came out(although i never owned a set). the k2 clicker was horrible and so was the burton system(forget what they called it, SI?) but the Switch system with high back bindings was solid, and was self clearing so you didn't have problems with snow and ice like the other systems, big problem with these systems, all of them, when you don't have a binding, you need a stiff boot, and soft boots is one of the things that makes snowboarding so popular. Getting good boots is the problem with these systems. but, hey, you find an old switch system, with high-backs, and a pair of boots that fit, nothing is quicker. good luck with that though.
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packfan4ever
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 7:48pm |
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Rented a board with thouse one time an they were such a pain. Go traditional more support an plus if they went good people wouldnt use them anymore. They are by far the most popular so stay traditional
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greenmnmsi
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 7:52pm |
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first board I rented had step-ins, I liked em! Not sure about when trying to do tricks though...
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bmorse
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 8:04pm |
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They were a good concept, but like others have said, the hard / stiff boots. You can still find them for sale, but I'd definitely stick with traditional bindings for the simple fact of being able to wear a soft, comfortable boot.
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Carms
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 8:07pm |
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I got into really bad accident using step-ins years ago. My boot popped out night snowboarding and I ate it so bad I woke up in the hospital with a bad concussion (due to knocking my head on ice multiple times). I trashed the bindings and the boots the next day. So I definitely wouldn't recommend using that vintage gear.
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winn
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 8:08pm |
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my friends would't lock into place because his boot wasn't kicked in enough. he had to sit out for the rest of the day basically
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chriskot
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 8:35pm |
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I started on step in bindings and I found that they took the same amount of time as regular bindings because they would lock in the wrong spot and I would have to do it over.
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dy3versity
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Posted: Feb/22/2011 at 11:58pm |
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I actually have an old school setup that has step ins. The main problem with them is getting them to lock down. If you aren't on a completely flat area or are in powder, it is very very difficult to put enough force down to get them to lock in. Also, their is no versatility with a setup like that.
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stx133
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Posted: Feb/23/2011 at 2:09am |
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Rode step in's once, will not do it again.
Difficult to locate and you do not "feel" the board as well. |
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iamjason10
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Posted: Feb/23/2011 at 7:04am |
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i think they are a really cool idea but i have heard bad things about them, just stick with regular bindings, im kind of upset i bought flows because they broke after like 5 uses
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Posted: Feb/23/2011 at 7:09am |
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they look so crusty
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yechiboarder770
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Posted: Feb/23/2011 at 7:15am |
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They scare the crap out of me, I can only imagine a full speed unclick or them popping off when landing a jump.
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Posted: Feb/23/2011 at 7:18am |
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When I first started out, a buddy of mine lent me his K2 Klickers Step-in System. They definitely never came out, but they were a bit difficult to get out of (they locked in strong).
Personally, I didn't like them (in my beginnerness, so it may be different now), because there was little to no adjustment. It was the same stiffness in the binding and tightness in the boot no matter what you were up to. My buddy liked them enough though, because he just clicked in and rode away off the lifts.
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LegalBoarding
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Posted: Feb/23/2011 at 12:19pm |
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Step-ins = a bad idea. They may come out at the most inappropriate times. Like the guy a few posts above me that ate it real bad on the ice after it popped out. I don't recommend them at all because if you take those into the park, i'm positive you're going to have to some problems. Think about buttering as well, if you're buttering what happens when you're trying to lean back and torque the board up. Your front food might get pulled out and then its over...
If you really want something thats almost as easy as step-in, go with K2's Cinch or Flow, thats about as close as you'll get.
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thegroetken
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Posted: Feb/23/2011 at 1:09pm |
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The only people I ever see using step ins are old dudes attempting to look cool because they are on a snowboard. My guess is that they grew up skiing and think step ins are legit because they are like the ski bindings they grew up on 40 years ago. Those folk tend to wear the "mental" beanies with the fake dreads or blue mohawk thing.
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Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 8:05pm |
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My buddy loves his step-in setup, been riding them for years, and he's a helluva good rider.
I don't really love them or hate them, but I started out with Burton Freestyles on a Motion board, and haven't looked back. |
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ddomski
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Posted: Feb/25/2011 at 8:15pm |
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step in bindings < regular bindings
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sreg0r
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Posted: Feb/26/2011 at 5:10am |
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Step in bindings are still relatively popular on the more skier friendly mountains in Japan. Massively forward angled on long directional boards with ski boots leads to some epic downhill carving.
Not the best all-purpose set-up, but they still have their uses. |
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tomwantssnow
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Posted: Feb/26/2011 at 7:44am |
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I rode step in bindings on rentals for 2 years and will never go back. When I switched to regular bindings, I could eel the huge change in performance.
You can actually still see step-in bindings all over the mountains, but they're usually on rental boards. |
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luv2shred
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Posted: Feb/26/2011 at 7:47am |
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they stopped making step in boots because the bindings are really dangerous. when your out on the hill the snow gets on the metal and freeses therefore making them dangerous.
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Piranha
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Posted: Feb/26/2011 at 7:51am |
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my first rental had step-ins.
I actually liked them...until, after a few runs, snow/ice got packed in the baseplates and I had to keep digging it out every run before stepping in...and that was on a hardpack day! seems like they were more of a fashion thing because you could walk around with just the board and no bindings. Also, fewer parts mean less breakage on rentals |
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TGozdor
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Posted: Feb/26/2011 at 8:03am |
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First board was step ins. That was good for begginers but not worth it overall
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winn
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Posted: Feb/26/2011 at 8:07am |
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the step in that l rented sucked. it didnt hold properly so it had room for movement. wasnt responsive basically
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thesupaflies
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Posted: Jun/28/2011 at 9:05pm |
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they do not support your boot at all. get any other binding besides step ins. they are crap
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jjfreak
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Posted: Jun/29/2011 at 5:54am |
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Do they even make these anymore?
I rented step in bindings like 10 years ago when I went to the mountain....Haven't seen them in years....
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