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markyjas
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Topic: Where do all the unsold boards go-Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 7:12am |
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This question may have been answered before, but after a quick search I couldn't find it. What happens to all the old model snowboards (that haven't been bought) after the new models come out. I can only ever seem to find 2 yr old boards at the oldest anywhere. Does anyone sell these boards? I can imagine you could get a pretty good deal. I guess this goes for anything: bindings, boots, etc.
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CoMtnRider
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 7:25am |
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I think after a certain period of time they are returned to the manufacturer, but I don't know for sure. It's a good question though, as even on ebay it's hard to find a lot of boards older than a few years that aren't super beat up.
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koji3
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 8:06am |
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Maybe its sold to resorts for rental boards and shit?
The difference in tech within 2+ years would be pretty big thou wouldn't it?
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c0r3yp
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 8:12am |
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well i would think that the rental boards is a pretty good idea because then they arent just tossin them out
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jeremy86
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 8:13am |
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koji3 you are right about the tech part , but for me I would take a board that is 50%+ off anytime over new tech, so I can go ride more using the money that I saved
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CoMtnRider
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 8:32am |
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Yea there could be a difference but rarely is there THAT big of a difference between 2 years unless it's a total redesign. Most of the time the tech change is a few small things that most riders wouldn't even notice anyways. Give me a 3 year old board at 50-60% off over a few new carbon fiber rods placed inside the board
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rye
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 9:18am |
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wouldn't they jsut take off the top sheet then reapply a new layer of base, then remold it to a new design? l thought more or less it would be easy to adjust
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robnezz23
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 9:45am |
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It would be great if they are returned to the manufacturer, then the green-thinker in me hopes they would melt down the material and recycle it into new product, but I don't know if that actually happens or even could happen. The material might be compromised after being recycled.
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MTpow
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 9:51am |
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they sit in the warehouse......
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robnezz23
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 9:51am |
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Who's warehouse?
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VermontRider
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 9:56am |
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The warehouses of stores who don't discount them enough to get them off their shelves. Most places are smart enough to get them out of their inventory by having decent sales.
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krisshono
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 9:57am |
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Maybe they donate them to 3rd world countries
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rye
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 9:58am |
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l'm sure they can recycle it because lve seen some ride board that are made with recycle/post consumed goods. but depends if they are willing to braek the board down to the specific components or simply buy it
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mrrorydigital
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 10:04am |
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They get put out to pasture. The best left over boards are used as stud boards for breeding next years models. Duh! I thought everybody knew this stuff.
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bmorse
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 4:36pm |
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Mrrorydigital, that was funny as hell. To the op, this is a good question. Now that I think about it, I too can't find any new /unused boards on eBay that are more than a few years old. We can only hope that we will get in on some of those deals if the older boards do make it back, or stay on the market.
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LittleShooey
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 5:29pm |
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I thought they kept them up for sale, but didn't market them with a year. They can keep the price a little higher and just market it as is instead of having to mark it way down (though admittedly it should be marked down quite a bit).
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humdingaling
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 5:41pm |
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it all goes to the-house/trusnow/proboardshop/etc who sell it at as current season model by not showing the year model on their products
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ctoma
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 5:44pm |
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^ I think you nailed it, nicely played.
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Spenser W.
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 6:12pm |
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Your logic is flawed on this assumption-just because you've seen boards that are made with recycled materials does not mean that you can take an unsold snowboard and recycle those materials to make another snowboard. I'm assuming that they use other kinds of recycled materials that they then make a snowboard out of. For example, on the old Burton EcoNico the edges and base were manufactured out of recycled materials, and they used natural materials such as "green wax" to avoid using chemicals that harm the environment. |
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 6:38pm |
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haha, that might be true.. i could definetly see that
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my humdingaling
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andrethegiant
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 7:04pm |
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they all go to my house so i can hang them on my wall and use them for other shenanigans
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markyjas
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 7:38pm |
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My original thought was the isle of misfit toys, but seriously does anyone who works for a boardshop or somewhere else in the industry have any input? If they are just sitting in warehouses, that's excess inventory that isn't making any money, so you would think they'd get marked down significantly until they are sold. And this may be the case, however I just can't imagine that the big guys like Burton can possibly get rid of their whole stock of boards within the 2 seasons they are typically marketed.
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derbytownjoe
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 7:43pm |
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one of the local sports stores here also has a discount store, and while they usually have pretty good deals(though they're seasonal), the boards ive seen there are at least 5+yrs and still with a pretty penny price tagon em....
a way old vapor for €500+ |
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not-ewrx
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 8:37pm |
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You can't recycle a snowboard at all. It's pretty much fused permanently when you make it. You could down-cycle the board into something way less useful, but I've never seen a good use for one. Most "re-cycled" products are down-cycled. Once you re-cycle something it's never as good as the original raw material and almost always mixed with a certain amount of raw material. You'd probably be better off making a bench or a fence with old boards. |
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humdingaling
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 8:51pm |
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case and point |
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batmanwest
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 9:21pm |
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wont let me upload from my lappy.....soooo..
i prefer using 4 insead of 2.... but yeah, like said above, you can't recycle a board. i guess you could pull the edges out and sell for scrap metal, but that would be about it. |
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EdroZ
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Posted: Apr/28/2011 at 11:34pm |
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I know here in SoCal they have SnowJam. Sell all the previous few years models. Pretty decent prices, too.
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nautika96
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Posted: Apr/29/2011 at 6:05pm |
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even at snowjam they dont discount as much as they used too.
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AyChan87
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Posted: Apr/29/2011 at 6:12pm |
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they have pretty good prices for beginner gear.. i havent seen awesome prices on premium gear though.. only 20-30% off |
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bmorse
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I was on line today on another site and saw some 2009 DC boards still listed at a higher price than what some of the 2010 models are being sold for on other sites. If they sell those 2 year old decks at closeout prices, they will be gone. Keep them at a price close to the 2010 model, and somebody would be crazy to buy a 2009 when you can get a newer model for a few (literally a few) dollars morre. I don't understand. I guess that's why I'm not in retail.
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Forgot10
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Posted: May/03/2011 at 4:50pm |
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Pretty interesting question. Ive wondered about it myself and would love to know the answer
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humdingaling
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4 points people just like the recent years colorway/graphics i love my graphics of the 2008 indoor survival>> 2010 and 2011 since i still ride camber i have no need to move onto FK version of the indoor newer models aren't always necessarily better company may actually ditch better quality material for a cheaper alternative follow year cant think of any examples at the moment but its bound to happen anecdotally i think this happens more in clothing rather than hardwear some people might like what the changes in tech bring i know people who prefer the Salomon f20 of couple of years ago because the new one is "softer" lastly, compare prices of the same goods between different sites is comparing their pricing policy/stock situation/etc. Got nothing to do with the actual product. if all these fail...the shop just has no idea on what the current value of the product is worth. It happens |
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steezmastaflex
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they go on sale for wicked cheap because the stores are looking to get rid of the inventory...i've seen 2 yr old boards in stores many times...many stores hold onto them and then just sell them the following year
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vandi518
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I know that both Rome and Burton have huge mid summer clearance sales that unload a shit ton of their previous seasons inventory at discounts of 60% or more. I bought my '08 T6 and a pair of '09 C60's (both new) at the B sale a few years ago for just over $500. Rome had a bunch of boards, binders and soft goods at their sale last year at similar discounts. Jones just had some mountain twins on The Clymb a little over a month ago at 50% off so I'm sure other manufacturers do the same.
Two weeks ago I bought my 9yr old a 2010 custom 140 and an '09 pair of lexa bindings for under $250 from a local resort that had them sitting around and wanted them gone, so you can definitely find good deals and bargin with shops on leftovers after the season is over.
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warehouse sales!
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If it's an old Burton, it will sit in the back of the warehouse forever. They enforce their 40% max discount regardless of how old the board is.
For example, here's a board from 1998 that TruSnow is still trying to sell: Sale: $269.95 40% OFF Clinton was still president. Hell, it's probably older than many of the posters here. |
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I believe the 40% off rule "only" lasts 3 years after the production year. |
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I bought a 2006 LTD Moxie snowboard that I retired long ago that you can still buy new on this site.
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After two years they bring them out behind the woodshed and shoot them. It's very sad.
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they sit in the store until they sell. there is no secret or trick about it. simple as that.
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Posted: May/31/2011 at 8:47pm |
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lol. ya this is obviously burtons fault. what about all the 08 unincs that are only 30% off?
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Spenser W.
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at least 08 unincs are valuable because they are totally awesome boards to ride! |
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highway12south
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2-3 years ago it seemed like it was a whole lot easier to get the previous seasons boards at 40-50 % off .What happened?
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Do you mean only here at TruSnow or everywhere?
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I like the bench made our of boards. It looks a lot more comfortable than similar benches I 'd seen before made out of old skis....
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Sierra + other sites as well Robnezz
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I know from ski shops in Europe (France, Austria..), that they sell the old boards to East Europe (Bulgaria, Czech Republic..)
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I just saw a super steez'y bench seat at a local Tahoe shop that used two snowboards to make a bench. It was pretty sick. Not sure if the decks were new or old, but it would be cool if all shops did that. It would be even better if after 2 seasons of a board just sittig in the shop, if they made some sort of bench seat, or some good ol wall art.
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