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lightning80 
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Posted: Mar/05/2013 at 12:27pm |
And Flacco has earned the SB win and the MVP, hence the big paycheck. Of course, football is a team sport and every win or loss is because of other players. But, in a QB led league, the QB gets the blame and the glory, and the money or lack there of. Is he better than Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, etc? That's all debatable. But which one went to the SB and won the SB MVP this past season, that's not debatable. Ravens had to pay that price to keep Flacco, other teams will be all over him if they don't. Then, who's going to play QB for them? 
And I did not not assume that they won because of Flacco. The Raven's D did give up 29 points in the SB. And the run game was not there (93 yards). So, I guess Flacco "managed" to get 3 passing TDs while the D gave up points and the team couldn't get the run game going? Or did Flacco win the game for them?
The guy has "managed" to get in the playoffs every year since rookie year. "Managed" a 60%+ completion in his career. "Managed" 11 TDs and 0 Ints, 117.2 QB rating in this season's playoffs. C'mon, the writing's the wall. Flacco deserves the contract he got. He's not a game "manager", he's a game changer.
And I'm not even a Raven's fan...
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Posted: Mar/05/2013 at 2:41pm |
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I feel like the most interesting part of the Joe Flacco contract is not whether he deserves it or not, its what does this mean for the Raven's salary cap and long term stability in keeping their players. Anyone that follows the Ravens or knows anything about this got any idea? I know they need to pay Ray Rice right?
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Posted: Mar/05/2013 at 4:35pm |
Originally posted by endsz
I feel like the most interesting part of the Joe Flacco contract is not whether he deserves it or not, its what does this mean for the Raven's salary cap and long term stability in keeping their players. Anyone that follows the Ravens or knows anything about this got any idea? I know they need to pay Ray Rice right? |
You'd think they need to pay Rice at some stage, but Pierce showed very promising signs as a rookie so you never know. Teams are ruthless with running backs these days
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Posted: Mar/05/2013 at 4:46pm |
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Rice got a contract last summer. I heard somewhere that they have 80 million tied up to 9 or 10 players and that was before the flacco deal.
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Posted: Mar/05/2013 at 7:16pm |
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NFL contracts are not 100% guaranteed.
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is it just me? or is common sense not that common.
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Posted: Mar/06/2013 at 1:47am |
It's the classic line when a player is outperforming their contract the organisation says "the player is contracted to the club for x amount of years and will honor their contract"
Yet when they're underperforming. Cut
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Posted: Mar/06/2013 at 6:15am |
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And what does he do? Go to McDonald's..
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Posted: Mar/06/2013 at 8:07am |
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It will be one of those situations where time will tell. We will see how the Ravens & the Ravens fan feel about Flaco a couple years down the road. 2 years ago they were ready to dump the guy. 2 years from now he might be in that same boat.
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Posted: Mar/06/2013 at 10:24am |
Originally posted by solocreep
NFL contracts are not 100% guaranteed. |
that's right! that's why brady was smart to restructure his contract..to double the quaranteed portion.
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Posted: Mar/06/2013 at 12:19pm |
Looks like the 49ers are going to have to get creative with their salary cap situation. They have less than $5 million to work with. Which means they will have to release players and or restructure some contracts before March 12th. It will be interesting to see how they are going to handle the backup QB position.
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Posted: Mar/06/2013 at 12:40pm |
^ March 5th was yesterday 
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Posted: Mar/06/2013 at 2:59pm |
Originally posted by lightning80
And Flacco has earned the SB win and the MVP, hence the big paycheck. Of course, football is a team sport and every win or loss is because of other players. But, in a QB led league, the QB gets the blame and the glory, and the money or lack there of. Is he better than Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, etc? That's all debatable. But which one went to the SB and won the SB MVP this past season, that's not debatable. Ravens had to pay that price to keep Flacco, other teams will be all over him if they don't. Then, who's going to play QB for them?
And I did not not assume that they won because of Flacco. The Raven's D did give up 29 points in the SB. And the run game was not there (93 yards). So, I guess Flacco "managed" to get 3 passing TDs while the D gave up points and the team couldn't get the run game going? Or did Flacco win the game for them?
The guy has "managed" to get in the playoffs every year since rookie year. "Managed" a 60%+ completion in his career. "Managed" 11 TDs and 0 Ints, 117.2 QB rating in this season's playoffs. C'mon, the writing's the wall. Flacco deserves the contract he got. He's not a game "manager", he's a game changer.
And I'm not even a Raven's fan... |
Game changer? I don't think so. He threw his 3TD's in the first half then disappeared for the remainder of the game. I mean, good for Flacco for scoring himself a massive contract off his SB ring but I wouldn't consider him to be part of that "elite" group of QBs just cuz of his ring. He just seem like a flash in the pan and only time will tell whether he's deserving of that money or not. Which begs the question... if Flacco is worth 20M per then what is Kaepernick worth come time to resign him?
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Posted: Mar/06/2013 at 9:48pm |
Originally posted by Oinker
Looks like the 49ers are going to have to get creative with their salary cap situation. They have less than $5 million to work with. Which means they will have to release players and or restructure some contracts before March 12th. It will be interesting to see how they are going to handle the backup QB position. |
and they did. akers was dropped, moving it up to 12mil!
which is a shame...i dont think akers has room for growth on the 49ers, not with his mentally shot condition.
whatever the case, i wish him the best of luck.
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Posted: Mar/07/2013 at 1:16am |
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Akers will kick somewhere else again, last season withstanding he's one of the better kickers in the league but just struggled through injury last year
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Posted: Mar/07/2013 at 5:43am |
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I dunno. Nate kaeding was the most accurate kicker in the nfl. But he choked when it counted. Losing the mental edge can really hurt a kicker.
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Posted: Mar/07/2013 at 6:59am |
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Akers is something like 38 years old and has injury issues. I doubt he makes another team.
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Posted: Mar/07/2013 at 8:05am |
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Nnamdi is a free agent. Along with cason. There are a lot of cbs in the market. I wonder if theyll get put in a man coverage system this time...
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Posted: Mar/07/2013 at 8:45am |
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Jennings gonna be a free agent in less than a week. Pats could be knockin on his door.
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Posted: Mar/07/2013 at 9:56am |
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Takeo Spikes released by the Chargers. Will this guy ever play a playoff game?
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Posted: Mar/07/2013 at 10:11am |
Originally posted by solocreep
Takeo Spikes released by the Chargers. Will this guy ever play a playoff game? |
Better chance if he is NOT on the chargers
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Posted: Mar/07/2013 at 10:15am |
Originally posted by Von44
Jennings gonna be a free agent in less than a week. Pats could be knockin on his door. |
49ers should pick him up. I thought this article was interesting, noting how he is not going to get what he wants out of free agency - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1556836-greg-jennings-seriously-overvalues-himself-heading-into-nfl-free-agency
I don't know if I agree. I think he skill set is complete and if he is the one go to guy, he could play more of a calvin johnson or brandon marshall type role if he has a quarterback that can get it to him. In Green Bay, he was one of 6 possible targets and so it didn't show what he was capable of as far as total catches, TDs go.
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Posted: Mar/07/2013 at 10:39am |
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Agreed a team with an established qb could make it worth his skill set and for a lowered price. The chargers are in need of a true #1 reciever still. But they need a better line first.
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Posted: Mar/07/2013 at 4:22pm |
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Jennings probably goes to Miami so Tanehill can have a legit wr and they'll pay the most.
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Posted: Mar/07/2013 at 4:54pm |
Originally posted by Jaydoc08
Jennings probably goes to Miami so Tanehill can have a legit wr and they'll pay the most. |
Would be a great fit! And the Dolphins have plenty of room to work with in the salary cap so they have plenty-o cash to spend.
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Posted: Mar/08/2013 at 3:20am |
Originally posted by Oinker
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Jennings probably goes to Miami so Tanehill can have a legit wr and they'll pay the most. |
Would be a great fit! And the Dolphins have plenty of room to work with in the salary cap so they have plenty-o cash to spend. |
Wallace would be better. Younger and Jennings has injury issues so would be better to team Wallace with Hartline and Tennehill for the next 5 or so years
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Posted: Mar/08/2013 at 5:39am |
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I could see Jennings going to SF and Wallace to Miami.
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Posted: Mar/08/2013 at 6:46am |
Originally posted by solocreep
I could see Jennings going to SF and Wallace to Miami. |
…or Jennings could go to Miami and Wallace could go the the 49ers. LOL! Before the 49ers do anything they have to do something about their salary cap situation.
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Posted: Mar/08/2013 at 7:11am |
Originally posted by LeerroooyJenkins
Originally posted by solocreep
Takeo Spikes released by the Chargers. Will this guy ever play a playoff game? |
Better chance if he is NOT on the chargers |
ouch, but I think you are right, Norv and AJ turned a once superbowl caliber team into a mediocre team, plus with payton and the broncos D I think it will be tough for the Chargers to contend. I have high hopes for our new coach and new GM, (Monkeys would have been better than Norv and AJ) Maybe in a couple of years the Bolts will be competitive again.
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Posted: Mar/08/2013 at 9:09am |
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I can't see the 49ers getting anyone with their current cap situation. Besides drafting rookies, they have to sign some of their guys to longer deals. Luckily they have bowman and willis locked up for decent deals.
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Posted: Mar/08/2013 at 1:49pm |
Originally posted by Oinker
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I could see Jennings going to SF and Wallace to Miami. |
…or Jennings could go to Miami and Wallace could go the the 49ers. LOL! Before the 49ers do anything they have to do something about their salary cap situation. |
if wallace ends up with a good qb no telling what kind of schemes he could run as a deep threat.
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Posted: Mar/08/2013 at 6:26pm |
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Eagles eyeing Goldson. He's good but overrated.
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Posted: Mar/09/2013 at 6:02am |
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That team is also going to need a good line to give the qb time. Otherwise wallace wont be able to work his coverage.
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Posted: Mar/09/2013 at 7:52am |
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With all this free agent talk, I'm surprised there's hardly any tampering issues.
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Posted: Mar/10/2013 at 2:55pm |
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What tampering issues are you talking about?
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Posted: Mar/10/2013 at 5:48pm |
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My bad, I was trying to say, with all these so called rumors, I'm surprised there are no tampering issues.
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Posted: Mar/11/2013 at 11:55am |
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Harvin to the seahawks for 3 picks. NFC west getting stronger. Good pick up if he could stay healthy.
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Posted: Mar/11/2013 at 12:11pm |
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Definitely. he's been streaky in his performance. Itll be good for seattle to counter sf's defense with harvin. I wonder how the vikings are going to do in the draft now that theyre loaded on picks.
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Posted: Mar/11/2013 at 2:04pm |
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Boldin heading to the 49ers for a 6th.
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Posted: Mar/11/2013 at 3:23pm |
Originally posted by Jaydoc08
Boldin heading to the 49ers for a 6th. |
Unbelievable. Such a good pickup.
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Posted: Mar/11/2013 at 3:24pm |
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Boldin heading to the 49ers for a 6th. |
Unbelievable. Such a good pickup. |
Unless he retires immediately upon hearing the news.
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Posted: Mar/11/2013 at 5:44pm |
Originally posted by LeerroooyJenkins
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Originally posted by Jaydoc08
Boldin heading to the 49ers for a 6th. |
Unbelievable. Â Such a good pickup. |
Unless he retires immediately upon hearing the news. |
Holy... F'ing... $hit... And for a 6th rounder? Bandwagon is about to get crowded.
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Posted: Mar/11/2013 at 6:00pm |
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it'll be good for the niners. they need a possession clutch catching WR. now, if only they can get someone to help them as a deep threat. Its rumored Moss is unlikely to return.
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Posted: Mar/11/2013 at 10:48pm |
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Free agency starts tomorrow. Big day for football fans.
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Posted: Mar/11/2013 at 10:53pm |
Originally posted by solocreep
Originally posted by LeerroooyJenkins
Originally posted by LeerroooyJenkins
Originally posted by Jaydoc08
Boldin heading to the 49ers for a 6th. |
Unbelievable. Such a good pickup. |
Unless he retires immediately upon hearing the news. |
Holy... F'ing... $hit... And for a 6th rounder? Bandwagon is about to get crowded. |
That is a massive steal! Even if he only plays out the final year of his contract it is worth it
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Posted: Mar/12/2013 at 12:16am |
Originally posted by mj2delmenico
Originally posted by solocreep
Originally posted by LeerroooyJenkins
Originally posted by LeerroooyJenkins
Originally posted by Jaydoc08
Boldin heading to the 49ers for a 6th. |
Unbelievable. Such a good pickup. |
Unless he retires immediately upon hearing the news. |
Holy... F'ing... $hit... And for a 6th rounder? Bandwagon is about to get crowded. |
That is a massive steal! Even if he only plays out the final year of his contract it is worth it |
despite this, here's the kicker!
i dont know if we're keeping goldson...
on another note, seriously, flacco has a FANTASTIC agent.
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Posted: Mar/12/2013 at 5:51am |
Originally posted by twolf123
Originally posted by mj2delmenico
Originally posted by solocreep
Originally posted by LeerroooyJenkins
Originally posted by LeerroooyJenkins
Originally posted by Jaydoc08
Boldin heading to the 49ers for a 6th. |
Unbelievable. Â Such a good pickup. |
Unless he retires immediately upon hearing the news. |
Holy... F'ing... $hit... And for a 6th rounder? Bandwagon is about to get crowded. |
That is a massive steal! Even if he only plays out the final year of his contract it is worth it |
despite this, here's the kicker! i dont know if we're keeping goldson... on another note, seriously, flacco has a FANTASTIC agent. |
There's plenty of DBs out there, and speaking of kickers, Niners still have one on their shopping list.
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Posted: Mar/12/2013 at 8:31am |
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That is a massive steal! Even if he only plays out the final year of his contract it is worth it [/QUOTE]
despite this, here's the kicker!
i dont know if we're keeping goldson...
on another note, seriously, flacco has a FANTASTIC agent. [/QUOTE]
That is the focus here. That agent and flacco were able to parlay a 8 game streak of great quarterbacking into the highest contract in the game. Wow.
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Posted: Mar/12/2013 at 9:08am |
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Would you rather have harvin for a 1st or boldin for a 6th. Harvins better, but thats a hefty price.
Excited for free agency at 4pm.
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Posted: Mar/12/2013 at 9:17am |
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Would you rather have harvin for a 1st or boldin for a 6th. Harvins better, but thats a hefty price.
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Harvin's better than any of the options to take in the first round for Seattle.... Boldin for a 6th round pick is a steal! 9ers are going to be a force to reckon with again no doubt. Hopefully Kap stays healthy for them
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Posted: Mar/12/2013 at 10:18am |
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49ers with Crabtree on one side, Anquan Boldin on the other, Vernon Davis and Frank Gore..and Kaepernick..if they can stay healthy, they'll be the team to beat again in the NFC.
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